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Message started by slingbadger on Jan 3rd, 2007 at 2:20pm

Title: interesting war weapons
Post by slingbadger on Jan 3rd, 2007 at 2:20pm
Just got done reading an account of a war between King ChristianII of Denmark and the Finnish natives. This was written in 1555, by Bishop Olaus Magnus

 In it he describes the Finns having tied to their belts, fist sized rocks with a thong at the end. They would throw these at the enemy. Also, they tied larger rocks to a pole and used these to de horse people, either by braining them, or wrappin it around their arms and dragging them off.

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by ADAXL on Jan 6th, 2007 at 5:19am

slingbadger wrote on Jan 3rd, 2007 at 2:20pm:
Just got done reading an account of a war between King ChristianII of Denmark and the Finnish natives. This was written in 1555, by Bishop Olaus Magnus

 In it he describes the Finns having tied to their belts, fist sized rocks with a thong at the end. They would throw these at the enemy. Also, they tied larger rocks to a pole and used these to de horse people, either by braining them, or wrappin it around their arms and dragging them off.


The fist-sized rock with a thong at the end sounds very much like the Bola Perdida (read http://www.slinging.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bolas). I did not know that this kind of weapon was used in Europe. Can you get us an exact quote and source?

The rock on the pole sounds like a flail variant, a common enough weapon.

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by curious_aardvark on Jan 6th, 2007 at 9:24am
betcha the fins won. tough buggers :-)

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by slingbadger on Jan 6th, 2007 at 10:19am
The Finns did win ;D I will have the exact souce coming next time I log on.
 The Finns also used red hot pieces of iron that they would sling onto the oncomming army

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by slingbadger on Jan 7th, 2007 at 2:44pm
The text is A history of the Northern people, by Bishop Olaus Magnus, in 1555. I will not even attempt to try the title in the native language.

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by ADAXL on Jan 10th, 2007 at 11:49pm

slingbadger wrote on Jan 7th, 2007 at 2:44pm:
The text is A history of the Northern people, by Bishop Olaus Magnus, in 1555. I will not even attempt to try the title in the native language.


No doubt about that. This book was the great work of bishop Olaus Magnus. Could you get us an exact quote and perhaps a few text snippets that we can put in the Wiki? I am especially interested in the bit about the red hot pieces of iron. Not your everyday sling ammunition!

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by slingbadger on Jan 13th, 2007 at 1:04pm
Next time I have it available.

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by slingbadger on Jan 14th, 2007 at 10:45am
OK here it is, from the Historia de Gentibus Septentrionaibus, by Olaus Magnus.

Chapter VII Of slings and stone and red hot iron
 
 " But where ther are no stones, which is seldom seen, they cast into forts as forcible as they may, a piece of iron that is glowing red hot, which they put in with a pair of tongs into the purse of a sling. For they have always  ready vessels like to Romane Barels, full of pieces of iron; and putting them int the fire, and fitting it to their sling, and casting against the besieged, they will make such a violent wound and torture, that it can hardly ever or never be cured by the help of the Physitians.  For in the Fall, by reason of its great weight, and burning where it lights; it hurts without remedy; and so to destroy the enemie, either with the terrour of these pieces of iron  which they keep closely or else by the wounds they make."  1555

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by curious_aardvark on Jan 14th, 2007 at 12:13pm
cor !
so what's a romane barrel then ?

Title: Re: interesting war weapons
Post by slingbadger on Jan 15th, 2007 at 3:29pm
I think all it is is a big pot over a fire to heat the metal with

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