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Title: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 3rd, 2006 at 10:45am
Can't remember who wanted me to make one, but I found my book, and a place that sells steel bows, so looks like a stonebow for a summer project (if I can find the time).
The book I have on this is THE CROSSBOW by Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey ;D |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by CanDo on May 3rd, 2006 at 2:53pm
Cool, I'll be waiting. :)
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Slinger_Man_Dan on May 3rd, 2006 at 4:06pm
Hello, Roy,
I too have been tempted to try my hand at making a crossbow and stonebows are particularly unusual and interesting. Please tell us where your supplier is for steel bows?? .......Dan |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 3rd, 2006 at 5:33pm |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Bjärn on May 3rd, 2006 at 9:08pm
I have never seen a stonebow before, this is the first I've heard of it.
When did it come about? I've become greatly interested in this invention! Though I would prefer a longbow. A stone longbow? ??? |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 3rd, 2006 at 9:13pm
Its a version of a crossbow meant to hunt small game and birds. The earliest I can find is 16th century. More of a nobility weapon.
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Bjärn on May 3rd, 2006 at 9:16pm
I wonder why someone decided to make a bow out of stone that recent in history....
What kind of stone is it generally made from? |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by CanDo on May 3rd, 2006 at 9:19pm
wait... it shoots stones.... not made from them right ???
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 3rd, 2006 at 9:24pm
Bjarn :-/ ::) ::)
it shoots stones sorry for the confusion :-/ |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Slinger_Man_Dan on May 4th, 2006 at 1:03am wrote on May 3rd, 2006 at 9:16pm:
Greetings, Bjarn, A "stonebow" is a type of crossbow that typically has a stock shaped somewhat like a question mark { ? } with the bow mounted at the top of the question mark and the straight end ( near the dot ) held against the shoulder. The bow is generally made of steel. The purpose of the oddly shaped stock is to allow clearance for the stone. Instead of launching a bolt down a track or rails, the stonebow launches a golfball sized stone or clay ball. I believe they were primarily designed to hunt birds, although you could probably take rabbits or other small game with it. Of course, it kills by impact force alone. Oddly enough, the effect is rather like a stone launched from a sling! ( Although much less skill is required to use it. ) I saw one in a display case at a museum once ( If I remember correctly, it was Flemish ) and it was VERY nicely made and probably expen$$$ive. I guess we'll just have to stick with our beloved slings but it doesn't hurt to daydream about fun "exotica!" Roy, thanks for the link! I will check it out! .......Dan |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by schoolman on May 4th, 2006 at 12:05pm
sorry buddy but that book "the crossbow' by Sir Ralph Payne Gallwey was written about eighty or a hundred years ago. The company that you can send a wooden prod and they will send you back a fully steel one ( I think it is in Bavaria but not sure) is probably defunct . You can grind out your own steel prod with a Volkswagon leafspring and a decent grinder. I'm sure a quality well-stocked welding shop will have a grinder that can handle grinding decent tempered carbon steel. I already checked out one of Ralph Gallweys decendents and he is pretty certain that there is no more steel prod manufacturers in Europe.
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 4th, 2006 at 1:47pm
Well I have a copy of the book ::), and just last year talked to someone here in the States that made steel bows. ;) So nothing to be sorry about. ;D
I have the ability to make my own bow from a spring, just not the time. |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Thomas on May 4th, 2006 at 1:52pm
I decided it was time to do a stonebow complete but leave the prod to the experts, so I bought one of Alchem’s 100 lb prods. Very professionally done steel prod. That string is enough of a project in itself!
I’ve seen the term prod or prodd used to describe the stonebow proper, any comments? I have a hardbound 1958 printing of THE CROSSBOW (acquired in the late sixties). There’s a whole section on trebs etc. Tom |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 4th, 2006 at 2:03pm
How did you like the 100# ?
I was thinking around the same poundage. |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by english on May 4th, 2006 at 4:17pm Quote:
I was a little confused to begin with, because I think of a "stone/pellet bow" as a hand-bow that shoots pellets or pebbles, and a "pellet crossbow" as.... well, I think that's obvious. Stone bows are very, very ancient in use - used from China south-east Asia to central America and medieval Europe. Quite difficult to use, but quite elegant. |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 4th, 2006 at 5:59pm
I figured they were used earlier, but haven't done enough research on them. The pics and diagrams I have of the 16th century one appears to have sort of a peep sight.
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Thomas on May 5th, 2006 at 10:00am
My intent is to use marbles on targets, not hunting. Whatever the ammo, it must be in a certain weight “window” to safely and fully utilize impulse of bowstring.
Right now that prod sits in my dresser drawer. The mother in law launcher has to be finished first. Seriously, I’m nearly done installing a wheel chair lift for my 90 yr m.i.l. and 95 yr mom. Tom |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Taiki on May 5th, 2006 at 10:23am
poor fellow let us know if it actually launches will you Lol ;D
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Unsapien on May 5th, 2006 at 2:42pm
[glb]Cheer Dance![/glb]
It was me! I asked if you would make one, and you said you would "consider it". I had gotten the impression that you wouldn't attempt it. I am so happy to have you prove me wrong. I'll know better than to underestimate you next time. ;D Very fine, very fine indeed roy! A Cheer for Roys noble attempt! [glb]Huzza![/glb] -Unsapien |
Title: Re: A Stonebow link Post by Steven on May 7th, 2006 at 11:01am
Here are a couple of stonebow links:
http://www.thebeckoning.com/medieval/stonebow/about-sbow.html and http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/mlexperiments/bulletbow/bulletbow.html |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 8th, 2006 at 9:59am
Unsapien,
It'll be a project for July or August I think. Have to schedule it in, and unless anything else comes up I'll beable to start on it. ::) Thanks Steven for the links. :D |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by lobohunter on May 8th, 2006 at 3:17pm
I have always been very interested in the stone bow has any one actuly fired one
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Roy on May 8th, 2006 at 3:20pm
I will beable to answer yes to that in August or maybe September ;)
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by english on May 9th, 2006 at 8:58am
I've shot them. I have a stone bow (hand bow) that took me about two months to learn the technique for, and a couple of pellet crossbows. They don't shoot very fast, and look a little, well, silly. I have only used them against paper targets.
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Taiki on May 9th, 2006 at 5:41pm
how on earth do you shoot a stone from a handbow ???
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by english on May 13th, 2006 at 5:49am
You have a string with a pouch, or a double string with a pouch, for stability. You put the stone in the pouch, draw the bow, and you sort of twist the bow around as you shoot so as not to hit the bow. It's also important to have the pouch a little way up from the grip, so that it won't hit your hand by accident. I've found it better, on the advice of ATARN, to draw the bow twisted - that is, twist the bow to the left before drawing, and try to maintain it as I draw, so that the bow naturally twists when you shoot. It's quite difficult technique. I find the handbows better than the crossbow styles, though.
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Taiki on May 14th, 2006 at 3:50pm
sounds like a lot of hassle to get a stone flying...i'll stick to a sling ;)
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by lobohunter on May 15th, 2006 at 12:29pm
well this is defenitly not going to be a stone bow vs sling
comp. |
Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Taiki on May 15th, 2006 at 12:56pm
woops :-/ didn't think of that :-[ yeah well the crossbows are cool butt the handbows sound so compilcated to shoot :-X
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Title: Re: Stonebow Post by Unsapien on May 17th, 2006 at 12:39am
Man I almost want one for myself. Would cut down on the $$ needed to replace lost or broken ammo.
;D -Unsapien |
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