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Message started by Zorrro on Feb 21st, 2006 at 6:56am

Title: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 21st, 2006 at 6:56am
Well as i promised here's the tutorial with lot of pics,most of them are self explanatory but anyway i'll give some comments that may help ;)
Materials:
*5mm nylon cord (any other will do as well)
*Medical tape (this is 10 cm wide, but you can use any width, glue will keep strips in place and it will be a solid pouch even using only 1 cm wide, but the more wide you use the more quick construction.)
*Knife to cut the rope
*Scissors to cut the tape and thre thread
*Buthane lighter to melt the ends of the nylon cord.
*Thread the most strong you can get.
*Needle to sew the thread trough the nylon cord.


Sling is very simple, basicly we overlap two pieces of cord to make a pouch frame and we wrap it with several layers of tape.


1st sew and tie the tips of the overlapping cords. (i sew trough the cords to ensure they wo'nt slip over, but a tight tie will work fine as well, cause medical tape also will help to keep cords in place.




I use 2 ties just to ensure things won't slip


Do the same at the other side to make a cord pouch frame.


Now you can test wich shape  you'll give to the pouch, wich lenght and width... i.e. asymetric?


....symetric?....


Use the same method to form the retention loop, this is two finger loop.


I haven't post any lenght of cords cause every person need different lenghts, so once you've decided the size of the pouch frame you can let long release and retention cords and trim them  later to suit your preferences.
This is the sling cord frame, (I don't use release knot so i've only sewn and tied some thread on the release end to make a fluffy tail with the cord fibres.) anyway you can make release knot or whatever you like.


POUCH CONSTRUCTION:
Once you know what sape you'll give to the pouch, we only need to wrap several layers of medical tape.
Cut a strip sightly wider than the pouch frame, just the lenghth of the pouch.


Let the piece of medical tape on the table with the sticky face up, and place the pouch cord frame over it with the shape you've planned.


Make some cuts with the scissors on the tape piece, so you can wrap the tape around the cord frame and stick it to itself.


These cuts are just an example, the goal is just to wrap the tape over the cord frame and keep it's shape.


Wrap carefully every side of tape over the cord frame and stick carefully to itself tight.


Do the same with all sides....


....Wrapping it totally around.


Make some cuts with the scissors so you can wrap the tape very close to the cord frame.


...And keep wrapping around...


...and around...


Finish wrapping the last flaps....


Congrats! you've finished your 1st tape layer  ;) it still have some sticky surface exposed on this side.....


But the other side is complete....


Now the next layer... cut another piece of tape... lay it on the table sticky side up...


...And place the pouch with the sticky exposed part against it.


Again make some strategic cuts with the scissors....


And wrap the edges again over the frame.


keep wrapping...


.... and wrapping...


Give it at least 2 more tape layers in the same way, alternating sides,  and in the end you'll have  an "ugly" side with the last layer flaps sowing....


... and a nice continuous side, this one is one piece and stones will be on this side wich is a lot more resistant, without any gaps or flaps wich may unstick with wear and dirt.


Now it comes a bit of protection with some tape on the retention side of the pouch




... as well as on the release side of the pouch.


Give as well some tape protection at the retention loop




Just as decoration to keep an eye of the "ugly" side where we don't want to place any stone,  paint anything you like. this decoration will stand for long if u use permanent markers.


This is the side with no decoration where we'll place the stone (you can decorate if you like but decorations will get dirty and wear pretty soon.


Here are some slings i made in a short time, 3 finished and 2 frames ready to tape the pouches  ;D

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on Feb 21st, 2006 at 9:25am
Thanks zorro  ;D

you euhm spent last night making those didn't you :P

thats one way to make people feel special you know  ;D

btw so that was the problem :o i was just trying to fold everything around without cuting  :-[

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Fritz_the_Cat on Feb 21st, 2006 at 10:40am
Way cool Zorrro  :D I'm making mine tonite . I'll also fix the chewed upon sling I made (the one my dog ate the deer skin off of). I'm saving this post to my computer . Thanks  8)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by slingbadger on Feb 21st, 2006 at 12:12pm

I've never seen a sling pouch that shape before. It looks very efficient at holding. How well does it work in the field??  

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on Feb 21st, 2006 at 12:24pm
again question whats the length of that Vewwy nice pouch of yours Zorro? ;D i think mine is Way to long  :-/

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 21st, 2006 at 12:48pm

wrote on Feb 21st, 2006 at 12:12pm:
I've never seen a sling pouch that shape before. It looks very efficient at holding. How well does it work in the field??  

It works very good,  It gives me the confidence it won't misfire so i use it everywhere, no matter if there'is people or cars or buildings around i'm sure it won't loose any stone in an unwanted direction. mne is about 75 cms long from pouch to retention loop and is the one i get farthest even compaired with other longer slings.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 21st, 2006 at 1:06pm

wrote on Feb 21st, 2006 at 12:24pm:
again question whats the length of that Vewwy nice pouch of yours Zorro? ;D i think mine is Way to long  :-/


mine is about 4,5cm x18 cm, it's just what i like, but you can make the way you like... symetric may be a lot easier to tape and a little symetric pouch also will take a lot less tape to make. here are other examples:
This one is symetric about 3x 7cm with double release and retention cord.


This is one of the tiniest pouch i've ever done, also symetric and may be 3 x 3,5 cms, just intended for those lead glands though it will hurl  bigger projectiles to the size of a hen's egg

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on Feb 21st, 2006 at 1:21pm
what size projectile does it hold?

i forgot to ask :-[

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 21st, 2006 at 1:30pm
This is a tutorial of how i make this kind of sling, but you can be a lot more creative, use any kind of cord, any shape and dimensions of pouch... any other kind of tape.... just experiment.
I use 4 layes of tape, but i think 5 or 6 layers would be even nicer.
I sew thread trough the cords, but may be simply tying with any  string can do the work just as nice or even better.
I use 2 finger retention loop, but you can try wrist loop, or 1 finger loop, whatever suit your preferences.
I use double tyings, but may be 1 is just right.


Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 21st, 2006 at 1:36pm
[quote author=Taiki link=1140522990/0#7 date=1140546094]what size projectile does it hold?

i forgot to ask :-[/quote]
Taiki, i prefer to sling rather light projectiles (well, my right arm joints prefer them  ::) )but iv'e slung stones from the sie of a hazelnut to the size of a fist... though my fav size is about a golf ball size or so.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on Feb 21st, 2006 at 1:38pm
thx  ;D just sortof getting my bearings right to see what a pouch like that can handle and such... why try and fail if someone has done it before and you canask right ;)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Gard on Feb 21st, 2006 at 4:20pm
That looks cool! :o

And then to make a symetric pouch you just do as you do at the left in the first sling?

I'll try to make this sling, I really liked it!

Gard

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by A_C on Feb 21st, 2006 at 5:26pm
Thanks, Zorro. I'm making another braided sling right now, and when I'm done, I'll definitely use that method to make a solid pouch out of a slippery split-pouch!

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Unsapien on Feb 21st, 2006 at 7:39pm
Thanks zorro~!
That's my next pouch design.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Altay on Feb 21st, 2006 at 7:44pm
That looks SOOO much easier than the netted sling I made (more or less :-/) yesterday! :o Awesome tutorial Zorro. Is there a way you can put it in the "Guides and Articles" page?

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by CanDo on Feb 21st, 2006 at 8:35pm
NICE Zorro! Is medical tape more durable than duck tape? About how much does it cost?

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Altay on Feb 21st, 2006 at 8:51pm
Duct tape doesn't seem like it would be able to grip the rock though... It's so smooth, I think the rocks could slip out (of course, it probably wouldn't be hard to keep the rocks in, but just a thought) :P

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by bigkahuna on Feb 21st, 2006 at 8:51pm
I like it! Thanks for the lesson. :)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by CanDo on Feb 21st, 2006 at 8:57pm
i made a sling with a ducktape pouch a couple days ago (pics coming soon). it feels very strong. although i haven't had much of a chance to try it out, rocks don't seem to have a problem staying in (I use mostly oblong rocks though).

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Tint on Feb 21st, 2006 at 10:29pm
Totally awesome!!!

Thanks Zorro!

The intructions were very clear.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 3:48am

wrote on Feb 21st, 2006 at 4:20pm:
That looks cool! :o

And then to make a symetric pouch you just do as you do at the left in the first sling?

I'll try to make this sling, I really liked it!

Gard

Right, Gard, make a shorter overlapping and give it symetric form (squared, oval, diamond etc... just what you like) you can get any shape and dimensions you like :D
Hrer's a long square, but you can make shorteror whatever you like, just form it with your hands


Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 3:53am

wrote on Feb 21st, 2006 at 7:44pm:
That looks SOOO much easier than the netted sling I made (more or less :-/) yesterday! :o Awesome tutorial Zorro. Is there a way you can put it in the "Guides and Articles" page?


I think Chris or any of the forum admins who can handle the forum can do that. They can use my post and pics as they please  :D

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 4:14am

wrote on Feb 21st, 2006 at 8:35pm:
NICE Zorro! Is medical tape more durable than duck tape? About how much does it cost?


Yes CanDo, it's a lot more durable, and it adapts to the projectiles very good, not as stiff and slippery as plastc tape,  Medical tape is not expensive, that  roll on the tutorial may be cost  about 5 or 6 $ and i think i've made 8 or 9 biiiiiiig pouches loke that on de tutorial.4  layers thick, if you make symetric pouches may be you can use it for 20 pouches or more.
Medical tape is also available in other widths, from 1 cm  1" and 2" the one in the pic is 4" wide.
Ask for the kind made of fabric, cause they sell different kinds, plastic, and hipoalergenic wich is like paper.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Tint on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 6:31am
Now I need to know where I can buy some of those medical tapes! ::)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Steven on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 10:06am
:o  [glb]WOWIE ZOWIE[/glb] Certainly stopped my current project dead in its' tracks.

I'm looking for a local source for 4" medical tape, so I can add one of your Medical Tape pouches to my current braid.

Thanks for sharing this with us.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 10:55am
yeah i tried one last night

Failed miserably... the sewing didn't fare well and my rope was Way to stiff ... gonna try again with my other rope and i'm just gonna knot that instead of trying to sew it  ::) tis rope i hope is i hope flexible enough to be able to do that  ;D

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by CanDo on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 12:39pm
thanks zorrro, now i'll have to find some of that medical tape

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Steven on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 5:51pm
Up several levels I stopped my current project.
Didn't have medical tape so used Duck Tape. Made a large pouch symetrical diamond shape 12"X4" could throw large grape fruit sized object ok also handeled tennis ball size ok.
The cord forms a ridge on the leading and trailing edges of the pouch so fall out was not an issue. Seems to digest variable sized ammo ok.
Sling aproximately 45" from pouch center to stopper knot. Pouch very slick but ammo stayed put. Don't care for the slickness so tore it out and replaced with 9'X3" leather pouch...
Now I need to shop for some wide cloth medical tape.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by bigkahuna on Feb 22nd, 2006 at 9:37pm
Any drug store and most large supermarkets carry medical tape :)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Stenny on Feb 23rd, 2006 at 11:54am
I use medical tape slings almost exclusively(although when I get my hands on some leather, I will make one of the Yurek's overlapping design), the only exception is one with duct tape pouch for throwing iceballs, fallen apples, potatoes et cetera. I use only two layers of tape for slings used to throw small(like 2 centimeters diameter) stones. They are durable, quick and cheap to make... what else can you ask for?

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by SEB on Feb 23rd, 2006 at 1:36pm
Great slings Zorro!

Sander

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on Feb 23rd, 2006 at 9:59pm
Succes  ;D Jeej i got it (sortoff) right now and i'm pleased to say that even though it looks like crud it really holds a tennisball well...much better then i had hoped it would seeing as its a bit lopsided(not the asymatricalness of the pouch in lengt but in width) but thats something i'll just have to remedy next try now won't i  ;D

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by bigkahuna on Feb 24th, 2006 at 12:53am
I just made two of your slings and I think they are great!. I can't wait to try them out. ;D

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Yurek on Feb 24th, 2006 at 5:09pm
What a nice tutorial Zorrro! I also use slings made of medical tape. It is a good option for "lazy" slingers ;)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on Feb 24th, 2006 at 7:55pm
or low on funds...

ow who am i kidding ok ok you got me i'm lazy as hell :-[

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Zorrro on Mar 1st, 2006 at 6:37am
Thank you very much for your comments happy it was useful for most of you  8)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by curious_aardvark on Apr 6th, 2006 at 9:34am
VERY COOL !!
'course any real 'craftsman' would have used duct tape :-)
Going to give that a go I think.

Good to see you guys haven't been slacking in my absence :-)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by fi3l2 on Apr 6th, 2006 at 4:21pm
actually medical tape has more a rough surface than smooth duct tape hence it would hold ammo better in the pouch

plus medical tape is much cheaper than duct tape.. atleast around where i am

I throughly enjoy this sling, props to you Zorrro

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by curious_aardvark on Apr 9th, 2006 at 10:31am
lol - oh I can see the benefits of medical tape - but it is way more pricey than duct tape in england and, well duct tape is what I use for everything :-)

Give me a bottle of P-U glue and a roll of ducttape and I can fix ANYTHING !!!!!
:-)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by fi3l2 on Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:00pm
completely agree with ya there.... here in a college dorm.. i have 3 rolls of duct laying around somewhere and I use them for EVERYTHING lol.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by sv on Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:45pm
zorro, that loks like a good sling. it's like forsythe's apache sling except it requires no braiding, cutting or sewing (the cords could be tied as you say).
i will try it with the tape, mine is almost the same as yours but i just use a bowline loop as a split pouch. thanks for the idea.  

sv  

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by loh_kah_hoe on May 22nd, 2006 at 7:04am
;D I made a simple sling using shoe string and cloth surgical tape. After some works, the tape becomes tough. I have my second sling! ;D

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Taiki on May 22nd, 2006 at 10:42am
yep i got 2 of these (made with duck tape) i wonder where zorrro is anyways he hasnt posted i quite a while  :-/ i'm starting to get a bit worried :-/

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Tint on Jul 10th, 2006 at 2:57am
I just made one of these ( while watching Wimbledon last night)!! ;D

Well, not exactly.  I couldn't find any medical tape on my part of the world so I used a cheap version of duct tape.  and instead of 5mm nylon I used 8mm.  The result is a great sturdy sling.  A little on the heavy side so I guess next time I'll use thinner nylon.  I really like the feel of it.  The big plus is that it is cheap and quick to make, so if it breaks I can easily make another just like it.

Thanks Zorro!  I am one happy guy.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Tint on Jul 10th, 2006 at 3:00am
Oh yeah, Zorro, WHERE ARE YOU?!???

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Legionare_Atimon on Aug 9th, 2006 at 10:17pm
I just finished a tape sling tonight it isn't the prettiest thing in the world but it works ok. Mine is pretty stiff though I have to use heavy rocks to get it to fold and form a good puch around the rock. Will the sling become more flexible after use or did i make it wrong?  :-/

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Dale on Aug 10th, 2006 at 2:14am
Don't know about the tape sling, most of mine have leather pouches and a few of my older slings are braided.  But all of them, regardless of material, get more flexible with use.  So I figure the same will be true of your tape sling.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Legionare_Atimon on Aug 10th, 2006 at 8:27am
Thx Dale!  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by slinginginmass on Aug 11th, 2006 at 11:28am
   Nice work Zorro!
I use duct tape almost exclusively and I've had no problem with the projectile rolling out. I have perfected a ''cupped ducked'' pocket that snugs at the corners when swung and realy eases up when released. It is a fairly simple design so I'll post some instructions and or pics sometime.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by siguy on Sep 10th, 2006 at 3:59pm
i made something similar to the tape sling yesterday, but i used duct tape and slightly thicker rope than prescribed.  it works well, but i prefer my old faithful.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Willeke on Feb 25th, 2007 at 4:36pm
Bring to the top.

Willeke

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by bigkahuna on Feb 26th, 2007 at 5:36am
It appears that the medical tape sling is fast becomming one of the most common and easiest to make of all the sling designs. I have had mine for afew months now and it is holding up quit well. I also lost one when it fell out of my pocket walking the dog :-/

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Willeke on Mar 10th, 2007 at 3:23pm
Any tape will do  :D
I have used slings made with masking tape that worked for some weeks or months.

Willeke

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by shabundi on Mar 12th, 2007 at 9:28pm
bigkahuna,

I definitly agree with you...

I believe the tape sling is the most simple and practicle sling to make in this day and age. I would imagine Leather would be nice, but I personnaly haven't been able to come by any that might be considered scrap and which I can us. However you can find medical or duct tape almost anywhere, and a roll of it can make you plenty of pouches. So when my sling gets worn out (Hasn't happened yet since I haven't been slinging for that long), I imagine I won't feel as bad as opposed to if it was made of leather.

I think the tape sling should recieve some kind of special status!

Shabundi

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by curious_aardvark on Jun 9th, 2008 at 5:25am
bringing this back to the front for our newer members :-)
Have to admit I was surprised it's not made it into the articles section yet - chris ?
It's a great design. cheap and easy to make use duct tape if you can't get the expensive medical tape.

Have fun :-)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by BrianGrubbs on Jun 9th, 2008 at 7:53am
I finally broke down and made a duct tape sling.  I've been planning on it for a long time, but I had other things I was working on.  Silly me :-)  It took me all of five minutes, and works great.  I ended up giving it to my friend Paul, and the next day here he is on Slinging.org!  Guess he's hooked now :-)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Steven on Oct 6th, 2009 at 8:52pm
Bumping this to bring it to the top again,

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by xxkid123 on Oct 6th, 2009 at 9:09pm
one of my carry-along-where-ever-i-go slings is this, but with a hexagonal pouch (the 2 slanty parts are 2.25 inches long, the center part is 2 inches wide)

though i find one row of stitches is enough

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Liberty dog on Oct 6th, 2009 at 9:22pm
going to make one tomorro ;)

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Woonilsra on Oct 6th, 2009 at 9:37pm
I tried serchign for this but couldnt find it! Thsi is a cool sling, the pouch is different from what ive seen, but im sure it works seeing as thsi has 4k views and a lot of happy chaps.
I'm so getting tape and making one tommorow

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Liberty dog on Oct 6th, 2009 at 10:58pm
i have to thank you all for this tread , cause it gave me the idea to use tape on a braided sling i made some time ago but i didn't like the way it slipped its shot.rocks flying out at the wrong time is bad news, as we all know.but putting duct tape in it as a pouch made it very useable. thanks again.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Thomas on Oct 6th, 2009 at 11:37pm
After seeing this pouch design the first time 3years ago I got the impression that the lines of force in tension would tend to pull the sides together, hence the payload needs to be relatively small. I have not tried the design but other makers like the method.  Zorrro said the tutorial is for method only; the design is up to the individual.

tom

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Xenovora on Sep 11th, 2015 at 9:28pm
I really wish the pictures would load... I checked that troubleshooting thread claiming to solve 99.9% of problems and changed settings appropriately but still no luck viewing any images here. Very unfortunate as it seems this design with a bigger pouch would be great for super large ammo like soccerballs and footballs.

Title: Re: Medical tape sling tutorial
Post by Tomas on Sep 11th, 2015 at 10:46pm
You could try and wing it. Draw out a pouch and add an inch or two to fold over the sides. You cut slits at the edges to help it wrap around the angles.

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