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Title: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by grey_wolf on Oct 8th, 2005 at 7:55pm
hey in all the thought on primitive weaponry I got to thinking...What about ancient and primitive medicine... well if a stray rock or asomthing hits me why not use the primitive methods of healing... just a thought... :)
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by ben_banned on Oct 8th, 2005 at 8:24pm
i do well i try anyway i have a few books on it my favorite healing plant is stinging nettle
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Douglas_The_Black on Oct 9th, 2005 at 10:00am
willow bark for those killer head ache's your sure to get when that rock hits you. :)
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by curious_aardvark on Oct 9th, 2005 at 11:56am
Okay - what does stinging nettle cure ?
I've got a culpeppers herbal around somewhere, but not entirely convinced that sympathetic medicine works (ie you treat the part of the body that the plant looks like) |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Crater_Caster on Oct 9th, 2005 at 6:01pm
Plantain is my fave!! It actually seems to take the pain away from something like a cut, where it stings. You can also live off of it, but I find it tastes strangely like butter. If anyone wants to know one of the thousands of uses, I have a lot of links. Just let me know.
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by loh_kah_hoe on Oct 10th, 2005 at 8:51am
If a short-sighted or long-sighted man wants to live inside a jungle without using spectacles???? ;Djust a question.
And how do you cure sore throat by the primitive way? |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by badgerdude on Oct 10th, 2005 at 10:40am Slippery elm or carefully prepared sumac bark is a good gargle for sore throats. My favorite is jewelweed. Its a common plant thats good for poison ivy, bug bites, rashes, etc. |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Bjärn on Oct 10th, 2005 at 12:43pm
Stinging nettle, the only contact I have had with that plant is in Newfoundland, where it leaves bee sting like injuries upon the skin.
What part of it would be helpful to heal? I have been studying primitive and holistic medicines and looking up to create a medicine wheel. For a topical injury, I would probably make some sort of poultice to dull the pain. Or something like white cedar tea! Loh, I would think you would make a tea, something to drink that could coat the throat and relieve it? I hear golden-thread can be used as a mouthwash for sore throats. |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Gun on Oct 11th, 2005 at 7:38pm
This thread is no back to unlocked. I have no idea why it was locked in the first place. Please conutine with the medicine talk.
One medacine that i have heard of is urine. Not for medacine but for setralzation of wounds. I read this in a Field and stream magazine. Your own urine of course. I guess the ammouna in it is better to use than nothing. |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by ben_banned on Oct 11th, 2005 at 7:38pm
"Nettle tea compress or finely powdered dried nettles are also good for wounds, cuts, stings, and burns. The infusion was also used internally to stop excessive menstruation, bleeding from hemorrhages, bloody coughs, nose bleeds, and bloody urine. It helps blood clot, but major bleeding is dangerous—indicative of a serious underlying condition. Consult a competent practitioner in such cases. Use for minor cuts.
Other uses include treating gout, glandular diseases, poor circulation, enlarged spleen, diarrhea, and dysentery, worms, intestinal and colon disorders, and hemorrhoids. Nettles are usually used along with other herbs that target the affected organs. German researchers are using nettle root extracts for prostate cancer, and Russian scientists are experimenting with nettle leaf tincture for hepatitis and gall bladder inflammation. Eating nettles or drinking the tea makes your hair brighter, thicker and shinier, and makes your skin clearer and healthier—good for eczema and other skin conditions. Commercial hair- and skin care products in health food stores often list stinging nettle as an ingredient. Nettles have cleansing and antiseptic properties, so the tea is also good in facial steams and rinses." taken from wildmanstevebrill.com |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by loh_kah_hoe on Oct 11th, 2005 at 7:49pm
I heard that urine can relieve stung wounds from jellyfish. ::)
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Bjärn on Oct 11th, 2005 at 8:07pm
I heard that too, but don't know how true it is.
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by ben_banned on Oct 11th, 2005 at 8:51pm
i will get stung next time i go to the beach and try
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Smudge on Oct 11th, 2005 at 9:17pm
I don't think that urine will cure excessive menstruation though, so nettles must be better... ::)
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by loh_kah_hoe on Oct 12th, 2005 at 3:42am
Ben,you really want to try?? :o
What about vinegar?I heard that vinegar can relieve jellyfish stings , too because it contains acid.Am I right? ??? Before I mentioned that eating cockroaches can cure fever,is this true? As for minor wounds,your own saliva is the natural medicine .It can prevent bacteria from entering your wounds and helps to heal faster. You can use aloe-vera juice to relieve muscle ache.Those are what I know. I have one question.What can I use as natural laxative?? |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Mikeel on Oct 12th, 2005 at 12:42pm
Prunes?
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by ben_banned on Oct 12th, 2005 at 8:52pm
yep ill try first i will get stung on one arm go with then test the other witht the urine
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by ben_banned on Oct 12th, 2005 at 8:53pm
day lilly roots are a good laxitive as are grapes and mullberries. why?
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by loh_kah_hoe on Oct 13th, 2005 at 7:04am
If in case I go somewhere far away from my home,and there I can't get enough fibers,I'll get constipation.
By the way,how much should I take in order to have the effect?(for grapes) Do prunes work? |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by ben_banned on Oct 13th, 2005 at 11:42am
day lilly tubers are a light laxative and grapes well you Know you will explode
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Bjärn on Oct 15th, 2005 at 12:31pm
What I learned from The Mammoth Hunters, pee can make white leather if you let it sit and become ammonia!
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by loh_kah_hoe on Oct 15th, 2005 at 9:55pm
Do you mean the ammonia from urine can make leather white?I don't comprehend? ???
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Bjärn on Oct 16th, 2005 at 6:20pm
Ja, the ammonia becomes a bleach.
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Gun on Oct 16th, 2005 at 6:37pm Quote:
Is that right. I mean ammonia turning into bleach? |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Bjärn on Oct 17th, 2005 at 2:31pm
It doesnt turn into bleach, it acts like a bleach.
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Gun on Oct 17th, 2005 at 8:30pm
makes sense
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by badgerdude on Oct 18th, 2005 at 11:36am
It's true, using urine to make ammonia has been known since the Egyptians. All you need do is let it sit, and it changes on its own. This is why cat litterboxes smell like ammonia when you let them sit. :-X
However, as a medicinal, I wouldnt recommend it. What it was used for in those days was a mordant for cloth dyeing, and as an ingredient in wood stains. Also, there is a way to extract saltpetre from urine, basically doing the same thing, but it takes a loooong time. |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by grey_wolf on Oct 19th, 2005 at 7:37pm
hey thanks for all the information Ill be sure to keep all of it in mind
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by grey_wolf on Oct 19th, 2005 at 7:39pm
Hey the thing Im interested in the most would be ancient Chinese and Japanese medicines
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Bjärn on Oct 24th, 2005 at 5:53pm
I dont know if this will help, BBC can be dumb sometimes, but how about this link Wolf?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/healthy_living/complementary_medicine/traditional_japanese.shtml |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by loh_kah_hoe on Oct 26th, 2005 at 8:10pm
Some Chinese say swallowing a newborn baby rat alive can cure asthma.Is that true?
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Gun on Oct 26th, 2005 at 8:33pm
proably not. I think people think that Chinese medacine is all correct. It is not. About half of the chinese mediace will be gone in 50 years with the exstection of bears, rhinos and tigers.
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Crater_Caster on Oct 26th, 2005 at 8:50pm
I believe that a medicine works if it has been used by many cultures that haven't had contact with eachother. If something has been used that much, it must work at least a little.
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by Bjärn on Oct 27th, 2005 at 1:12pm
Again, depending on how it is prepared if it is holistic.
And, the stuff about swallowing rats-old wives' tales! |
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by grey_wolf on Nov 4th, 2005 at 10:32am
I love the interest in primitive medicine that I have brought about. I also found an odd remedy for snakebite but it includes an ingredient I'm not familiar with. Its onion mixed with rue and honey applied to the wound and taken internally. If you know what rue is could you let me know? I wonder if that would work... only one way to test it but I dont want to hurt anyone in the process.
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Title: Re: primitive medicine ... just thought Post by MammotHunter on Nov 4th, 2005 at 10:35am
I would think heavily that given the difference in snake venom chemical composition, it would have to be a pretty species-specific sort of cure. Some snake's venoms are neurotoxic, others are sarcopahgous, some are paralytic
Rue, by the way, Grey_wolf, is a species of evergreen subshrub with bipinnate or tripinnate leaves, with a strong scent, native to the mediterranean area, and related to the magnoliopsids, if memory serves me correctly. |
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