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Message started by SLINGEROO on May 23rd, 2005 at 8:17pm

Title: Hunting with sling
Post by SLINGEROO on May 23rd, 2005 at 8:17pm
Have you ever gone hunting with your sling? I am not a hunter myself but I thought that if I was going to learn how to use this thing it would be good to know a technique that I could hunt with. Does anyone know of some styles that have worked for them? I have been trying to teach myself the Traditional Apache Sling technique by - L.W. Forsyth but I wondered if there were any others that people know actually work.
Thanks,
Slingeroo

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 23rd, 2005 at 9:09pm
i have tryed to hunt birds with  "grape shot" it works ok.  and i once hit a rat with a big stone but that is the extent of my hunting with a sling.  :) i cant rember who but some one hunted seagulls and some one else hunted geese. i think mike got the geese but im not shure.  :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Mike_R on May 23rd, 2005 at 10:03pm
That's me. Seagulls, one goose, one racoon, and one marmot. I'm no expert but my tips are: firstly, try and try again. Second, I use a slow revolving back swing, and a fast, hard, overhand swing. I just practice like throwing a fastball. Next, go and find smooth football shaped rocks, all about the same size. I like 5-6oz, lots of punch. For me I would rather throw hand and miss than throw soft and only injure something.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 23rd, 2005 at 11:03pm
I'm the sick bastard that launches "flak" at seabirds. But I've never actually tried to kill anything with my sling. Never needed to.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by me on May 23rd, 2005 at 11:03pm
Someday I "will" hunt with my sling, till then I will just have to live vicariously through mike.  ;D

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hmmmmmmmmmm on May 24th, 2005 at 12:43am
hunting with a sling. How obsurd! your going to kill a animal with a chunk of rock and a sling. ha ha ha ;D
You guy's crack me up  ;Dha ha

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Tyler on May 24th, 2005 at 1:16am
Whatever you say hmmmmmmmmmmm.  I'm hoping thats sarcasm.  If its not then why do you think the sling was invented?
   Dispite my last remark I have found it very difficult to hunt rabbits with a sling.  They are incredibly skiddish.  Call me crazy but I think they are more skiddish when i am carrying a weapon with intent to kill them.  Psycic or somthing.
    Don't get me wrong but don't think the sling is the best rabbit killing device, at least in brushy southen california.    Traps are probably best.  As far as weapons go I have gotten very close to hitting a rabbit with a rabbit stick.  Rabbit sticks are definitly better for hunting rabbits than slings, my rabbits any way.  Btw when I throw anything at a rabbit they are almost always running.  If they aren't running they are sitting in the brush where I can't see them.  
    one mor thing.  I use one revolution helicopter method due to the brush.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hmmmmmmmmmm on May 24th, 2005 at 1:43am
so you still think your going to kill something with a rock and a string. yeah maybe your self when the rock hits your head haha ;D

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lionheart on May 24th, 2005 at 1:24pm
If this guest hmmm, isnt being sarcastic, maybe he should stand next to a wall, whilst we all fire glands at him and see if his opinion of the sling is changed...
Rik

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 24th, 2005 at 2:05pm
See, by hmmm's logic, hunting with a sling sounds no more absurd than with a gun and bullet, which is just a small piece of metal propelled out of a tube. But I'm with you. How's about we line him up against a wall, and chuck our tiny, nasty rockses at him. I'm saying one hit with a chicken egg sized rock at anywhere near terminal sling velocity, and the few remaining moments of our dear friend's life will be drastically changed in their feelings about the sling?

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Dale on May 24th, 2005 at 2:13pm
Many people are familiar with the story of David and Goliath, but consider it (and the rest of the Bible) to be a fairy tale.  Fairy tales are about things that just do not happen in real life.  Hence, nobody could kill anything with a sling.

Myself, I think David and Goliath were real people.  But even Goliath had nothing but contempt for David and his sling ... until a moment before he died, when I imagine his contempt was replaced by surprised amazement.  Goliath got his forehead caved in, so he probably saw the stone coming; but there was not time to duck.

This character signing himself as "Hmmmm" knows not whereof he speaks.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 4:21pm
hmmm where you live ill give you a demo of the power of the sling.  ;)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by me on May 24th, 2005 at 5:42pm
What are you guys talking about? Oh..I must have my retard guard turned on I wasnt getting his posts.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hmmmmmmmmmm on May 24th, 2005 at 5:49pm
I live in lower wash.
Dale I have used a sling. Found it akward unreliable and mostly just useless. I understand this forum is about slings. But be truthful people is it not mostly just fantacy
like D&D or SCA.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hmmmmmmmmmm on May 24th, 2005 at 6:00pm
No here's my point. And I Guess I should have been more polite, about my thought's
  Is not the sling to  inaccurate to hit small animals. and not powerful enough to take down large animals

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 6:00pm
You need practice. you cant just pick a sling up and start picking birds out of the sky. I have been slinging for around 2 years and ive just started to get good and I can throw a rock with tremendous power, or with fare accuracy. Watch the videos in the articles section. its pretty impressive what someone real good at slinging can do. its an art not something that can just be picked up and used, like say a slingshot or bow.  

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 6:02pm
but you can load it up with big game ammo. lobohunter made sling ammo that could take down a deer. also i am positive that a lead gland could take down bigger ammo. You could take out a tank with a sling as long as you have the proper ammo for it.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 24th, 2005 at 6:18pm
Okay, I'm an atheist, fair enough, but I always use the david and goliath allusion when first introducing anyone to the sling, because frankly, most of the world is Christian, and therefore familiar with the story. Say, for argument's sake, that the story is true, and shepherd DID kill a giant with a sling. Is hmmmmmm still ready to say that if that story was true, it is impossible to bring down large game when a sling can kill a say, 300+ lb man? Large game is what? Any animal over 100 lbs? So, theoretically, this could include humans. And we do know slings to be lethal to humans, so its ability as a hunting weapon stands firm.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Markmyster on May 24th, 2005 at 6:46pm
I have hunted with a sling, I shot, killed, and ate 3 ducks and a rabbit. I know I would starve if I had to depend on the sling for my food, but to say you can't hunt with it is just stupid. The sling is a weapon thats what weapons do. Most people in todays world are to lazy and expect instant gratification, that's why they don't get the concept of the sling. That's also why you will never buy one at walmart or find one in a box of cracker jacks.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Matthias on May 24th, 2005 at 6:51pm

wrote on May 24th, 2005 at 5:49pm:
...is it not mostly just fantacy
like D&D or SCA.


Absolutely not! Look at the historical uses of slings. It does require practice though. Most primitive hunting tools are pretty tough to use. Tell you what, you take a pointy stick hunting and I'll take a handful of rocks, even odds?

Less than 1/3 of the world is Christian...

The story of David and Goliath is Judaic, and is intergrated in both Christianity and Islam. David's reign is considered the beginning of a recognisable Jewish state. In Christianity, he is an ancestor of Jesus (required to fulfil some requirements of being Messiah) and Islam grants him prophet status himself.

I guess that covers half the planet.

Matthias

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hmmmmmmmmmm on May 24th, 2005 at 6:53pm
MammotHunter an  atheist who quotes the bible which by default he must think as fiction. Douglas_The_Black says the sling is an artist weapon. Giving martial artist there do is there really such a thing.

Just because Lobohunter made sling ammo that could take down a deer. Does not mean that ammo can and will. It also seem by default we are acknowledging the inaccuracy of the sling by not mentioning small game any more

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 7:59pm
i have taken down some small game with just old rocks, also i have taken out birds with "flak" you could get a few birds at a time if you use a "flak" shot into a big group of them. For small game you just need to have lots and lots of practice. there is a movie somewhere on this site of someone hitting a soda can with a stone at a pretty good distance. The sling could never be as good as lets say a trap, or a gun at catching game but you could use it for hunting. And you can make a sling faster then you could make a trap.


Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 24th, 2005 at 8:01pm
No, I said I refer to the bible, I never said I quoted it. I refer to the DaG story because most americans (if your current government is any standard) are christians and would better grasp the allusion to a biblical story than a historical tyrade on the differences between slings and slingshots.  And though I do believe probably upwards of 98% of the stuff contained therein to be fiction or allegorical, I do think there are certain aspects which may hold relevence or truth, at least in concept if not execution. And thanks, Matthias, for setting me straight on the statistics for global religion. It seems I've had my figures mixed up. And what do you mean we've stopped mentioning small game? Didn't Markmyster just mention having taken down 3 ducks and a rabbit? ::)
I suppose your next absurd theory is going to be regarding the lack of power behind an atlatl dart, right?

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Mike_R on May 24th, 2005 at 8:12pm
Why are we argueing with this guy? It's like being back in kindergarten again. "My Dad could so beat up your dad! Na ah! My Dad was in prison and he could whip your Dad's ass!"

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 8:13pm
the atlatl is one of my favorte ranged weapons. I wasent much impressed with it untill i threw the blunt dart at a wood target, then i was impressed. :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Mike_R on May 24th, 2005 at 8:14pm
Na ah! My Dad says that in prison you tape a phonebook to your chest and an atatl can't hurt you!

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 8:16pm
here is that movie i was talking  about.

http://www.slinging.org/12.html

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 8:17pm
haha i dont know mike i wouldent trust any book if an atlatl with a head on it was being thrown at me.  :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Tito on May 24th, 2005 at 8:21pm
i agree completly that you can hunt almost any game with a sling and good sized ammo. anything from a bird to a medium sized deer is a whole lot of animals for the picking. i am fairly accurate with my sling but i still haven't hit anything yet.  
M.H. And the next absurd theory should be Goliath was actually a midgit and David was a woman. 8)
i am a bit slow, but what is an atlatl?
Tito

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Mike_R on May 24th, 2005 at 8:22pm
Hey! "Little person" please.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 24th, 2005 at 8:35pm
tito, an atlatl is a tool devised about 35,000 years ago to deliver more force and power behind a javelin like projectile than is possible by arm force alone. It's basically a 2' long piece of wood or bone with a handle on one end and a spur or groove which engages the projectile on the other. It functions as a lever to increase the length of the arm and deliver the dart with exponentially more force. You throw overhand with it, like a baseball, and reportedly, they could take down mammoths with these thousands of years ago.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 8:36pm
haha an atlalt also known as a speer thrower, was used by lots of diffrent countrys, basicly it was a thing that you held or strapped onto your arm and it was used to throw these big long flectched darts. Very very strong.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 24th, 2005 at 8:42pm
Yeah, the darts that I throw with look like 6 foot long arrows and tend to scare the hell out of people not familiar with the weapon, which is most people. I can usually get between 50 and 70 yards with a single throw, although the world record is over 880 ft with a carbon fibre atlatl and aluminum dart.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by SLINGEROO on May 24th, 2005 at 8:42pm
Wow! I sure started something with this question.  :o I would have to say that hummmmmm is missing the very obvious and that is that the sling is a weapon that has been documented to be used in many wars. Why, if it would just leave a little bruse would it ever continue to be used as a weapon? Most humans are bigger than deer last time I checked. The only reason from my understanding that it stopped being used as a weapon is because the technology of the bow and gun and so on became better and easier to use. My whole point to posting this question in the first place was to find out which techniques people used not if it was possable. I can not even understand how someone would doubt its ability to kill.
Slingeroo

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 8:46pm
used in many wars? its still being used in war today! you know its got to be good if its still being used alongside machenguns.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 24th, 2005 at 8:57pm
yes, somehow I cant see palestinians trying to bruise the israelis

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 24th, 2005 at 9:00pm
haha yes i would love to hear what they have to say about hmmmm's argument.  :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Tyler on May 24th, 2005 at 10:41pm
Doug, they might put up the best argument.  Some of those guys have probably killed men with sling stones.  Of corse that is obvious.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Tito on May 24th, 2005 at 11:18pm
yeh, i would agree with you there Tyler. they certantly would have killed with a sling already. ;)
an altatl is a spear thrower. 8) thanks. cos i was wondering what everyone was talkign about when they were saying altatl, all they needed to do was say spear thrower and i would have understood.

Tito

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Coenie Greyling on May 25th, 2005 at 5:38am
Mat 7:6  Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Tell me what the above passage is about please atheist!

To be an atheist is to say that you do not believe in something that you do not believe in anyway, in other words if it was not for the Almighty God, what would you call youself and what would you rebel against?

Anyway, enough of that. I have been slinging for app 3 months and have come very close to hitting a bird out of the air and I am sure if I were more experienced it would have been a hit. Unfortunatly I am not without injury because of slinging, Damadged my rotator cuff in my shoulder using the weaver overarm throw.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Leeds_Lobber on May 25th, 2005 at 8:00am
Hmmmmmm's initial post was worded badly enough to get everyone's back up, but his basis point is fair - i would guess many of us are not good enough with the sling to 'hunt' with it, in the sense that were we to be stranded in the countryside with nothing else, we would probably starve. Speakling personally I would use my Sling to make Rabbit Snares  ;D

But I suspect you could say the same thing about most weapons web sites; I bet 90% of the members of "Rednecks who like shootin off their guns.com" are lard-ass city boys like me.

The sling certainly can kill, and i have spent the last few weeks desperately searching for the references for a discussion some US observers had about watching Ethiopian Regular Army Soldiers using the sling as a grenade launcer !

Last thing, I am a fanatical Atheist, but that wouldn't stop me using the bible as a purely Historical source, esp numbers, judges, kings and the other Israelite / Judean history issues are stored. Most modern historians accept the basic outline of the history of Israel and Judea as covered in the Bible.

(In my view David Killing Goliath with a sling was a bit of a Gyp. Goliath gets all armoured up and issues a challenge to his opposite numbers among the Hebrews... and some kid pops him with a missile weapon ? Thats not in the rules, and were I a Philistine I would have demanded a rematch and a fair fight, and David's head on a plate as a Peace Offering!)

Pat  

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 25th, 2005 at 8:22am
Coenie makes a good point, but I call myself an atheist to differentiate myself from the people who do believe in God. This is difficult, I think, to articulate, and I'm not going to get into a big theological discussion here. There are three categories; believers in god, not sure, and non-believers. I'm not saying that I don't believe in your god, I'm saying I don't believe in the idea or validity of any gods. It's not just your god, it's the idea or the concept of gods I don't believe in.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Coenie Greyling on May 25th, 2005 at 8:51am
Nothing from the bible will be revealed unto you purely because you are blind (not talking about where you look to sling a stone). Discarding your false sense of believe at a drop of a comment shows how deep and falid your believe is. :-X

Like that verse says not to throw your pearls to the swine is the same as not waisting the word of God on somebody that has already heard the truth but denies it. :o

Anyway I realy enjoy this site in regards to slinging but as it seems to me from the southern tip of  Africa, people can't leave politics and religion out of anything. Little bit sad ain't it.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Leeds_Lobber on May 25th, 2005 at 9:33am
Yeah, who brought up religion anyhow? Never a good idea in a public forum, as too many diferent views on it.


So, is HMMMMMMMMM a slinger, or does he just wander in and out of Forii annoying people? I spotted a post by him on another topic that was perfectly reasonable.....

Pat

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 25th, 2005 at 12:37pm
I think I made the mistake of stating that I referred to the bible as an allusion for a certain target group to grasp the concept of what a sling is.  Holy Zarquon's singing fish...why must some people feel compelled to force their viewpoints on everyone else?

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lionheart on May 25th, 2005 at 1:06pm
I still feel my original suggestion of standing hmm up next to a wall and having everyone else hurl tungesten glands at him.   Or maybe just one balearic slinger, and im suprised they havent been rasised as evidence for the accuracy of a sling yet.
As for religion, not the best place for it here, although david and goliath is in the bible, and may be fictional, hy would the author(s) use a weak weapon, like saying today little iraqi boy killing american tank commander with a bottle of water?
Rik

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hmmmmmmmmmm on May 25th, 2005 at 3:53pm
There are a lot of good points made.
I don't think the points about the slings use in war.
Argue effectively in its favor as a hunting weapon.
First of all one school of thought about ancient war fare and the sling. Is that it was always used in mass as an artillery type attack. Interesting but not practical as a hunting technique
and in modern warfare seems to mostly be used for harassment and deployment of grenades and moctovs
also not an effective hunting scenario
and as for the lining up angst a wall let me get my bullet proof gear I wont worry much. Except maybe with those one razor things I saw a PIC of on the forum. I have seen test that broad heads will penetrate bullet proof vest. but still none of this is proof of the sling as a hunting weapon
so thank you gentleman for an enjoyable time
so my work done here it's off to another forum

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 25th, 2005 at 4:04pm
"tungesten glands"

have any idea where i could get one of these?


Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 25th, 2005 at 4:11pm
In A.D. 1187 the chinese chronicler Yuan Hao-Wen recorded an unusual use of the grenade in an anecdote about a hunter named Tieh Li:

one evening he found a great number of foxes in a certain place. so, knowing the path that they followed he set a trap and at the second watch of the night he climbed up into a tree carring at his waist a vessel of gunepowder. the coven of foxes duly came under the tree whereupon he lit the fuse and threw the vessel down. it burst with a great report and scared all the foxes. they where so confused that with one accord they rushed into the net which he had prepared for them. then he climbed down the tree and killed them all for their fur.

hunting with motovs or grenades, you would more inlikely burn down your tree with these things, but you could make and use a flash bang for the same use.

also fishing with a sling, and taking down the "real large" game. like your common dinasaour. :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lionheart on May 25th, 2005 at 4:16pm
1.  Flak shot makes it possible to tkae small gmae fairly easily
2. Talk to the balearic slingers, they are incredibly accurate due to near constant training.
3. the space needed for slinging i nany style means that for only a small number slingers, a lot of space is needed, pointing to the accuracy of the slingers due to the small numbers ina group.
4. The use of explosive rounds is simply an advancement in ammunition, and allow a poor slinger to cause large amounts of damage.
5.  lead or tungsten glands or even a good rock have a lot more mass, therefore have much energy than a bullet
6. armoured vests are designed to stop the bullet penetrating, glands dont need to penetrate to cause damage, a shot to the chest would crack ribs, pierce lungs/heart and cause large trauma.
7.  You say your job here is done, what precisely was that?
Rik

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lionheart on May 25th, 2005 at 4:16pm
PS.
8. Learn to type/spell/punctuate

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by me on May 25th, 2005 at 8:02pm
Ok...better get into the "debate" If it can be called such...
To say you cant hunt with a sling is about the stupidest thing Ive ever heard in this forum. Millions of people since the beginning of time have hunted and fed themselves with slings. You need to read up on history. Otherwise you come off sounding like a fool, and rightly so. The Incas, the Apaches, the Aztecs, Mayans, and many others in the new world used slings for hunting. The Baleric slingers are the most famous in the old world
but that was only because it was basically their national past time so they became better then everyone else. But slings have been used throughout Asia and the middle east, as well as Europe and to be honest all over the world for hunting. After all that, there are people in this very forum who have hunted with their slings and yet, as you say, it simply cant be done. Judging from your previous posts  it seems you have no grasp of reality. You are like a madman in the midst of an ocean, proclaiming there is no such thing as water.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on May 25th, 2005 at 8:09pm
"Tungsten glands"  would be easy but expensive you can buy tungsten rod or have it ordered at most metal supply house's the 1/2 inch rod would be very expensive.
But could easily be cut down into glands with a little creative use of a silicon carbide cut off disk.
As for hunting with a sling. HMMMMMMMMMMMM send me a message. If you live in lower Washington. Ill take you on a hunting trip next winter I live in Oregon and used the sling to harvest nutria this last winter. It was fun and worked just fine. No else has done this but I am going to HMMMMMMMMMMMM welcome to the forum and please register.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Thori on May 25th, 2005 at 11:09pm
He's just an ass who goes from board to board starting six-page flame wars to make everyone mad.  He succeeded.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Tito on May 25th, 2005 at 11:19pm
My conditions; as long as we can play David and Goliath as a group, with Hmmmmmmmmmm as Goliath, i am happy with letting him become a member. :P :P :P.
Tito

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by me on May 26th, 2005 at 12:47am
Thori , your right...
but then again tito you are too :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 26th, 2005 at 8:55am
well you did hit a touchy spot hmmm but i dont think any of us have the right to make too much fun of him, he was just voiceing his opinion, even though it was unfounded. I have done this quite a few times.  :) Join up if you want we are all pretty nice people just dont go starting fights.  :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 26th, 2005 at 8:57am
i have been looking at tungston for a while, That stuff is expensive, i was mostly looking at these custom cut spheres of tungston, that are just the right size for the sling. would be nice to have one but i dont want to drop the money.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on May 26th, 2005 at 8:04pm
awe Doug well a good fab shop could make those for for the price.
now if you had a arrangent with a scrap yard. to watch for the right size  tun.  and then knew how to forge it. because tungsten can be forged

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 26th, 2005 at 9:42pm
can it be forged with a ramshakel forge or does it need anything special? I was always under the impression that tungston was some rare expensive metal that could not be marred by the likes of normal people like me :P

haha i will ask my friend at the junk yard to look for it for me.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on May 26th, 2005 at 9:52pm
yeah just needs high heat and a heavy hammer
most any forge will do it

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hmmmmmmmmmm on May 27th, 2005 at 4:01am
Well; thank you lobo hunter.
I might take you up on the trip. Thanks to every body else who invited me to join.
I am not quite sure what a nutria is or why you harvest it but I am game. hopefully not literally  ;D

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Leeds_Lobber on May 27th, 2005 at 8:40am
Nutria? Those are Coypu aren't they ? Oh, you lucky Americans..... The ultimate Sling Target, as they are as stupid and slow IIRC!


Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 27th, 2005 at 10:10am
Nutria=Big swamp rats, if you prefer. They're an invasive species that have come up from South America and invaded North american wateways, where they eat water weeds that many species of north american game fish depend on for food and shelter, and have caused a tremendous decline in the freshwater game fishing field as of late. Probably 20 lbs in weight and 2 feet long. I'd hunt the bloody things with an atlatl if it were legal here in VA. I've heard of them as far north as MD, and I think, PA.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 27th, 2005 at 10:19am
Oh, yeah! Don't forget to join up, hmmmm! Contrary opinions or not, we'd like to have you. Welcome in advance to the board!

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lionheart on May 27th, 2005 at 12:11pm
I would also like you to join up, just respect the weapon we all use for its real power.
Rik :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by knight on May 27th, 2005 at 12:47pm
lol i just read all 7 pages. and slings are definitly able to take down small game and big game or anything just like a rabbit stick takes out small game but yeah i saw on tv once a documentury on the sling and it showed this grape sized rock and this sling then the dude took it and hit 5 apples out of this tree with the one rock it went through them all. and he took a bit larger rock and blew up a watermelon with it so yeah its powerful. and even a small rock can prob take out big game but i tried fishing with my sling. it works i nailed 2 sunnys out of the 100 times i tried.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 27th, 2005 at 2:48pm
haha well that sounds like fun knight. fishing with a sling.

i was in bioII a few days ago disecting a frog. Now i want to try some frog legs. There is a frog in the creek by the park and she is one big frog too. not bull frog but still pretty big. i wander if i could hit her with a sling stone? It sounds like something fun to try anyway :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by MammotHunter on May 27th, 2005 at 3:38pm
I saw a TV documentary about the weapons of the Aztecs, and the host took a sling to demonstrate the power of a slung clay glande, took 20 steps back from the dummy, and released a glande at it, which hit it in the forehead and exploded in a shower of dust. Unfortunately, the atlatl dart hit the dummy in its plate armour and cracked, which was what the host was aiming for, but disappointing in its penetrating power.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by knight on May 27th, 2005 at 3:58pm
O.o

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on May 28th, 2005 at 1:49am
up here in oregon somebody tried to raise nutria once. Now they are a huge pest. But we have the best nutria fur in the country

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on May 28th, 2005 at 9:18am
those must be fun to shoot at.  :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 2:37am
Douglas_The_Black come to oregon next fall ill take you hunting too!

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 11:41am
i would gladly come if i could :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Tito on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 8:43pm
has anyone tried hunting rabbits with a sling?
there are hundreds of them at our hoiday house and i have thrown a few rocks at their general direction. but i haven't actually tried to hunt them.
Tito

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Dale on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 10:34pm
Knollslinger got a rabbit with his sling, some years ago.  His account of that and other exploits was in one of his first posts in this forum.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by me on Jun 2nd, 2005 at 11:35pm
Tito, I did once, it was dusk, almost dark and I missed. But I got two shots at it and it didnt move. I think given another chance and better conditions I could bring one home for dinner.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Tito on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 12:05am
rabbit stew. sound delicious. ;) of course i wouldn't want to eat one, i would just see if i could hit one hard enough to keep its misery nil. but then what i would do with the dead thing... no idea.
Tito

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by tint on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 2:06am
Anyone know what happened to Knollslinger?


Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by TechStuf on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 6:23am
It's possible....just possible....that the rabbit he managed to 'take out' with his sling, belonged to the 'family'.....I'm guessing that the 'family' of the offed bunny ambushed him in revenge.

;D

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Leeds_Lobber on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 9:12am
lol lol i was wondering if he suffered from a bad case of 'now, where the heck did THAT rock go.......?"  thud

I hope not !

Spookily I was shooting at nothing last night, lobbed a lead shot into a bush and out jumped a roe deer. If I had killed it I would have had no idea what to do - Deer always belong to someone over here !

Pat

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Mike_R on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 11:36am
You would have had to butcher it up post-haste and then hoof it out of there. My dad lived in Yorkshire as a kid during ww2. They were really poor and irish so they would fish and hunt with military surplus. They would throw flash-bang grenades in the creeks, wade in and grab all the fish they could carry and run home lickety-split!

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Leeds_Lobber on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 11:44am
Heh, they still have similar tricks in Yorkshire today - but instead of throwing the grenade in a stream, they instead lob them into the nearest Restaurant, grab all the food and money they can and scarper...... ahhh, wilderness survival skills for the new millenium

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 2:10pm
haha most of us can survive in the wilderness but the concrete jungle? i dont think i could do it.  :)

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 6:51pm
a couple of times, in the concrete jungle I was happy I had a sling in my pocket with a few ball bearings

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Jun 3rd, 2005 at 10:41pm
i never even get out of the car when im in the city untill i get to where i am suppose to be. In fact the only time i have ever been in a city was when i had to go to pittsburg to get my back looked at.  personaly i cant stand the city.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on Nov 7th, 2005 at 6:57am
I can add A couple turkeys in ny that had a heart attack when they saw me whirling my sling

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by bigkahuna on Nov 8th, 2005 at 9:06pm
I still wish that guy would tell me how that penguin tasted! :P

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by ben_banned on Nov 10th, 2005 at 3:36pm
wtf?

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by kelthen on Nov 10th, 2005 at 7:41pm
i no im reallly behind but im 11 years old and i can chuck a rock almost a city block so hmmmm eat them apples

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by jackdeuce on Nov 10th, 2005 at 7:48pm
hey how cud u actually kill a big animal like a deer with a sling ? im 14 male tennessee

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Gun on Nov 10th, 2005 at 7:54pm
shot placement. People can kill deer with a 22 cb, you could kill a deer with a 5 oz stone pretty simply. Just got to hit the right parts

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on Nov 11th, 2005 at 3:17am
I think it's a combination of the right ammo and the right shot placement
hmmm I wonder If Arkanas will have a deer drop by thing this year lol
the chance have at least doulbled lol

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Gun on Nov 13th, 2005 at 7:09pm
well it didn't happen this weekend lobohunter. I deer all around, just they were all females. Once they got with in 15 yards (this morning). I wonder if i could even get a sling with one revolution before the deer run. I guess it would also help if it was a lone deer and it was looking the other way. Maybe next weekend.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by modern_slinger on Jun 5th, 2013 at 10:11pm
test have been tested with slings and it showed that a sling had more than enough power to kill a man but only if your aim is good so it shoulx stop a deer in its tracks

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by TNshooter on Jun 5th, 2013 at 11:12pm
Hell yeah modern slinger. In L.W. Forsythe's story on the Apache sling, the old Apache gentleman said he reugulary killed deer and enemies with his sling. I look forward to hunting with mine, if I can ever get my accuracy up to par.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hassan on Jun 6th, 2013 at 9:00am
Gun, just use Apahe method for stealth.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Caldou on Jun 6th, 2013 at 9:25am

hassan wrote on Jun 6th, 2013 at 9:00am:
Gun, just use Apahe method for stealth.

Hassan, you may find it useful in the future to look at the date of the post you reply. In this case, the post date from 2005 and Gun has not been connected for almost 3 years...

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by hassan on Jun 7th, 2013 at 10:50pm
When a thread pops up, I dont rlly look at the post dates.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by SchlrFtrRkMystc on Jun 16th, 2013 at 1:02am
That's the thing with technique and hunting... it seems that any technique with windup like figure 8 or sidearm is terrible for hunting... considering the windup is a big fast movement likely to spook game into running. I would say most hunting should be done with a simple overhand cast... any thoughts?

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on Jul 11th, 2013 at 4:51pm
i must agree

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Pikåru on Jul 11th, 2013 at 5:23pm
Would say that an overhand may sometimes be a better bet but using any kind of wind up will to depending on the game.

Cottontails will sit still, sometimes until you're practically on top of them. Whatsmore is many times they'll run a short distance and stop, giving you a second or third try at it.

Roosting birds usually won't spook, other game birds like grouse will lay still. Trick is seeing them before you get so close they fly up.

An effective method of hunting birds is when they're in a tight group feeding on the ground, on the water or just as a flock takes flight. Throwing into a tightly grouped flock will yield your best results.

Outside of that you're right. Trying to sneak up on a single animal and take a shot without spooking them first is going to be very difficult.

An overhand cast may be better but I've had deer flinch downward when they hear the sound of an arrow or see the movement of the hunter and a bow is much faster.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on Jul 11th, 2013 at 9:38pm
I have a another question. Has anyone here perfected a shot gun style delivery with multiple peices of ammo. I have tried it and have always had very limited succes with some of the extra ammo leaving the pouch at odd moments or in odd directions on the other hand for a spread effect crossed chain ammo has work well. though it seems accident prone

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Pikåru on Jul 11th, 2013 at 11:20pm
As kids we used to throw gravel with our slings and hit bats flying around the area's only street light but it was more miss than hit. I've toyed with making round clay shot that is segmented similar to how an orange has slices but there's been no more than thought on it, no prototypes.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Radegunde on Jul 13th, 2013 at 8:36am
I'm not a hunter (yet  ;D), but I think it could be useful for an uncertain future to elaborate slinging strategies for hunting (unlike, say zombie killing  ;D)
I suppose a simple overhand with no wheeling around, as was suggested by SchlrFtrRkMystc would indeed be best.
Another point to consider is the color of the sling - reflecting orange colored  Paracord for instance would be less stealthy than say black wool.
Approaching wild animals should preferably be done against the wind, which could affect slinging accuracy (anyone here has done studies on wind direction and accuracy?)
And then, what would you do if the animal is just hurt but not dead?





Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by squirrelslinger on Jul 13th, 2013 at 11:47am
I don't hunt, but if you make a cylender from 'cane about 2" in diam, 4' long, node on the end, and then put a handful of 1/2 steel ball bearings in it, make a shotgun sling capable of destroying many things.

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by Pikåru on Jul 13th, 2013 at 12:09pm
timpa, one of the members here has one of the best shotgun slings around. http://linko-sling.jimdo.com/erikoisammukset-special-bullets/

Title: Re: Hunting with sling
Post by lobohunter on Jul 14th, 2013 at 2:37pm
very nice link having been absent from the forum for awhile i was hopeful to see something like this. next step build a cluster sling. thanks guys

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