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Message started by knight on Oct 23rd, 2004 at 9:03pm

Title: was king arthur real
Post by knight on Oct 23rd, 2004 at 9:03pm
for all those ppl that like king arthur i think he was real and i will prove it as soon as this thread starts going

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by english on Oct 30th, 2004 at 3:54pm
Of course he was real.  His name probably wasn't Arthur, but there was someone around who caused a lot of trouble for the Anglo-Saxon invaders in the sixth century.  I just don't think he is particularly interesting, to be honest, just another bothersome Celt in a long history of bothersome Celts, nearly all eventually easily subdued.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by knight on Oct 30th, 2004 at 4:08pm
his name actualy was arthur cause when king henry the 3rd i think found his coffin they found a leaden cross that said here lies king arthur on the isle of avalon which i now that the abby he was found at is avalon but it said it in latin not english so just so u know

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Matt_C on Nov 2nd, 2004 at 12:13pm
King Arthur is, by most, thought to be a number of Welsh leaders who stirred up some trouble around 500-750 AD, from all this a composite myth did sort of start, and was later romanticised, I have no idea about that finding, knight, could you help me find a good online article on it? I haven't learnt much about the King Arthur myth since highschool.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by knight on Nov 2nd, 2004 at 1:46pm
http://www.fionabroome.com/history/glast5-grave.htm

thats a good one i will try to find more i read 50 sites but only put one in my favs

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by english on Nov 3rd, 2004 at 2:02pm
"This marker remained hidden until the 12th century."  Could be a clue to the idea that it isn't actually real.  Arthur legends were reasonably well known in the middle ages.  In fact, Henry VII's son was named after Arthur, and was christened at the Round Table in Winchester (I walk past this everyday and I am doing medieval history at college.)  So, a fake would not be impossible.  Just like the Piltdown man in the twentieth century.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by knight on Nov 3rd, 2004 at 5:10pm
hmm u r lucky u live there i am going to a medieval history collage also so could you tell me one so i could plan ahead and maybe someday i will meet u but i am pretty sure he is real i mean why couldnt it be real but we have those who belive and those who dont but again dont forget to tell me what the name of the collage is cause i will come all the way to england for it

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by tint on Nov 3rd, 2004 at 8:46pm
Did king Arthur use the sling? ;)

Wouldn't it be cool if you can prove that he did? ::)

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Gun on Nov 3rd, 2004 at 11:57pm
Wasn't king aurther rumered to be a decedent of jesus in the book "the davincy code"? Or i am i wrong?

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Matt_C on Nov 4th, 2004 at 5:40am
I think that is to do with a little theory started a long time ago, supposedly the British Royal Family said they took their place as "Chosen by God" and supposedly a woman who had known Jesus once travelled to Britian...
But as I said, it's been a long time since I've learnt anything on Arthurian legend, so it's pretty foggy.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by knight on Nov 4th, 2004 at 7:46am
o i know it well i dont think it said he was a decendent i dont know what he is for somereason i forgot some of the stuff i read

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Gun on Nov 4th, 2004 at 9:50am
I am not say anything i said was true i just thought that i heard about it in that book.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by english on Nov 6th, 2004 at 1:15pm

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hmm u r lucky u live there i am going to a medieval history collage also so could you tell me one so i could plan ahead and maybe someday i will meet u but i am pretty sure he is real i mean why couldnt it be real but we have those who belive and those who dont but again dont forget to tell me what the name of the collage is cause i will come all the way to england for it
 I go to a sixth form college.  The way it works in England is, you go to primary school from 4 to 11.  Then, you go to secondary school until you are 16.  Then you can leave school for good or go to sixth form college for two years.  After that you can choose whether to go to university or not.    But yeah, I'm quite lucky.  I have lunch in front of Winchester cathedral, and walk past various interesting things everyday.  A statue of King Alfred the Great, who defeated the Danes, and whose capital was Winchester (still was up to 1066).  The pasty shop I go to get pasties (obviously) has a sign outside saying "this was the site of William the Conqueror's palace in Wessex", and pretty much every shop has a nice plaque on the outside saying something like that.  Even the lamentable but inevitable McDonalds is in a medieval building (and is unfortunately so themed.)  The college I go to has been around since 1606.  It's quite good for someone like me.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by DCR on Dec 11th, 2004 at 8:42pm
You are, indeed, lucky to live in such a historical land. You are also lucky enough to live in such a fine welfare state that you may attend such wonderful educational institutions. Don't take it for granted and do take full advantage of it.
 Here in the states "welfare" is a dirty word and means something a bit different. Our educational system is deplorable, as if you couldn't tell from some of these almost unintelligible posts, and some of the worst test scores in the world.
 Oh yeah, I forgot: Of course King Arthur was real!

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Matt on Dec 24th, 2004 at 6:05pm
lol, king arthur never existed, nore did excalibur and the lady in the lake. :P

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by english on Jan 1st, 2005 at 5:19pm
It is very good to hear you say that, DCR.  Our welfare state was indeed a great invention, but it is unfortunately taken for granted.  Healthcare is absolutely free, but some say that it is bad quality - not so.  However, I have heard Americans boasting about the quality of the health service in America - it may be superb in terms of care, but it is not the NHS.
 I find it quite silly to even think that someone could live in a lake.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Matt on Jan 1st, 2005 at 5:36pm
the nhs isnt that great..

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by english on Jan 2nd, 2005 at 6:01am
No, it's not great, but it is free.  It's good, we have good doctors, nurses, and so on.  My mum is a nurse - now a school nurse - and she has worked in great ormond street, so I know all the ins and outs of the NHS.  It's nothing like as bad as people say.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Matt on Jan 2nd, 2005 at 1:49pm
hmm, alot of people would argue against you but i dont want to cos i cant be arsed

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by knight on Jan 13th, 2005 at 2:09pm

wrote on Dec 24th, 2004 at 6:05pm:
lol, king arthur never existed, nore did excalibur and the lady in the lake. :P


excalibur may not be real but king arthur was oh and lady of the lake wasnt real either but anyway king arthur was supposedly very tall like almost 7ft and queniver was in the same coffen as him so when they got it out of the ground the monks from the monestry touched her hair cause it was still there and it turned to dust but somwhere in this world the leaden cross exists and that would be the only thing left of king arthur oh and the glastonbury(sp) monestry is actualy avalon

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by english on Jan 20th, 2005 at 11:21am
I just read "The Da Vinci Code", by Dan Brown.  A very good book.  It contains a lot about conspiracy theories, that kind of thing, all about the Knights Templar, the Priory of Sion, Opus Dei.  I suggest that if you want to know all about crazy theories, go for that book. Alternatively, David Ike could help you out...  I like his idea that all the rulers of the world are cold blooded green lizards.  Brilliant.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by ben_banned on Apr 2nd, 2005 at 3:07am
i can not stand the guy you the only reason he wrote that book because he knew he would piss people off wich gave the book the ability to sell cuz every one was curious

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by knight on Apr 9th, 2005 at 11:04pm
Lol he is smart lol why didnt i think of that

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by english on Apr 24th, 2005 at 7:09am
Ok, so Dan Brown is a jerk.  His books are fairly stupid, but the point is, they are good to read.  He writes well.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by hellier on May 5th, 2005 at 10:56pm
To take this elsewhere...if you are ever passing Cornwall ( not that you can really pass it as it's kind stuck out there on the end of England.....) you may wish to drop by the waterfall at St. Nectans Glen....Arthur was supposed to have climbed it, bathed in it...etc, etc....cool place.

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by knight on May 6th, 2005 at 12:09pm
Eh when i go to england ill be checking out alot of stuff there im going when i graduate highschool

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by Dale on May 6th, 2005 at 1:43pm
OK, I can't leave this one alone even though it's off the topic (King Arthur).

Dan Brown may write well, but his writing is enjoyable only if you know nothing of the subject about which he is writing.  He does not write well enough to make you suspend disbelief; to say to yourself, "What if the world DID work that way?  How does it work out?"

Brown's novel Digital Fortress started out well, because he was introducing his characters and the politics and the business (on both sides of legal).  I really know nothing of business or politics and so the book seemed good.  Then he introduced a bit of misinformation about cryptography, and based subsequent development of the story on that misinformation.  I put the book down and have never finished it.

As for King Arthur: if he wasn't real, he should have been!  Same for Robert of Locksley (a.k.a. "Robin Hood" -- I like Henry Gilbert's account of Robin's life)

Title: Re: was king arthur real
Post by VoiceInWilderness on May 10th, 2005 at 11:55pm
I will second the notion!

;)

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