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Message started by SnapCut on May 24th, 2004 at 10:22am

Title: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 24th, 2004 at 10:22am






CHRIS HELP PLEASE!!!! This doesn't seem to be working right. :-/  And also How do photos get into the Gallery ???

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 24th, 2004 at 10:56am
[glb]WOW![/glb] That did work.
Sorry everyone but they are upsidedown I don't know how to rotate them :'(

The braided one that I just finished making not to long ago I'm calling THE WHIRLING HURLER I made it from #18 green and white nylon line.

The next one that I'm planing on making I'm thinking of calling THE WHIP ZINGER.  Barak told me about DMC 5 so I mailordered some, hopefully it will be here this week.  On this one I want to weave a design into the cradle.  I have the book THE COMPLETE HOW-TO BOOK OF INDIANCRAFT by W. BEN HUNT in it is a section titled WOODLAND INDIAN BAG WEAVING that shows how to weave patterns using a weave close to what I've been using for the Andean style cradle.  Up until now I have been using one strand as weft and it shows how to use two strands as weft to make patterns.  I also hope to use different sinnets for the release and retention cords.

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by Chris on May 24th, 2004 at 12:24pm
I've rotated the images for you.  I think you sent them to me upside down.

As for the gallery, I manually edit the pages.  It gives me tighter control of the content and I can organize them however I like.  When I update the gallery next, your sling will be included.  I just realized TechStuff's slings aren't up their either.

Chris

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by Matthias on May 24th, 2004 at 12:28pm
Nice! How can we tell that they're upside down though?  ;D

Would you be able to post a closeup of the pocket?(maybe showing a little of the cords too) Seeing the different approaches to construction is always interesting (and help expand the collective knowledge base)

Matthias

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 24th, 2004 at 12:39pm

wrote on May 24th, 2004 at 12:24pm:
I've rotated the images for you.  I think you sent them to me upside down.

As for the gallery, I manually edit the pages.  It gives me tighter control of the content and I can organize them however I like.  When I update the gallery next, your sling will be included.  I just realized TechStuff's slings aren't up their either.

Chris


THANKS CHRIS

I did send them to you upsidedown.  I did not know how to rotate them then eather ::)

I am looking forward to seeing them in the gallery ;D

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by Hobb on May 24th, 2004 at 12:39pm
Yes, please do.  The cords look like they might be fairly intricate, but I can't tell.  Are these 16-strand braids?

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 24th, 2004 at 1:00pm

wrote on May 24th, 2004 at 12:28pm:
Nice! How can we tell that they're upside down though?  ;D

Would you be able to post a closeup of the pocket?(maybe showing a little of the cords too) Seeing the different approaches to construction is always interesting (and help expand the collective knowledge base)

Matthias


Nice to hear from you Matthias :)

I guess that you would not be able to tell that they were upsidedown but all of the photos I had where.  It was driving me nuts.

The next time that I take some photos I'll try an get some closer ones.

I didn't bring the specs with me for that sling (I was going to) RATS!.  I'll tell you some of what I remember.  Both cords are 8 strand square sinnet with a 2 strand core.  The cradle is made from the core strands.  I did mean to post all the specs today but I messed up sorry ::)

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 24th, 2004 at 1:09pm

wrote on May 24th, 2004 at 12:39pm:
Yes, please do.  The cords look like they might be fairly intricate, but I can't tell.  Are these 16-strand braids?


I think that the pattern I used for the cords might make it look more intricate.  It's made from #18 nylon green and white line.

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 24th, 2004 at 2:18pm

wrote on May 24th, 2004 at 12:28pm:
Nice! How can we tell that they're upside down though?  ;D

Would you be able to post a closeup of the pocket?(maybe showing a little of the cords too) Seeing the different approaches to construction is always interesting (and help expand the collective knowledge base)

Matthias


In most braided slings the area you mentioned usually has whipping.  This sling does not I don't like whipping.  During construction I use a constrictor knot.

Please see my post titled Stop the whipping

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 27th, 2004 at 10:11am
[glb]THE WHIRLING HURLER
SPECIFICATIONS[/glb]

MEASUREMENTS
RELEASE CORD  31 inches
CRADLE     5 inches
RETENTION CORD  25 inches
WRIST LOOP  6 inches (not including Matthew Walker knot)
TOTAL   67 inches (not including Matthew Walker knot)

KNOTS
Slipped Sheet Bend (used during construction)
Constrictor Knot (used during construction)
Noose (used during construction)
Four-Strand Square Sinnet
Eight-Strand Square Sinnet
Two-Strand Matthew Walker Knot

LINE USED
Nylon Twine Size #18
Nylon Twine Smaller Than Size #18 (used during construction)
Cotton Twine (used during construction)

EQUIPMENT
Work Belt
Bryson Distributing E-Z BOBS (med)
Foster TINY-SPRING CLOTHESPINS

BRAIDED CORD STRAND LENGTH
7 yards (2 Green, 2 White)

CORE/CRADLE STRAND LENGTH
10 yards (1 Green)

BRAIDING COLOR PATTERN SEQUENCE
SIDE A    SIDE B
Green               Green
White               Green
Green               White
White               White

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by Matthias on May 27th, 2004 at 12:50pm
Wow! That's thorough.

Does the mw knot let you adjust the size of the loop? I guess I'll have to find a piece of twine and find out! I've used double diamond knots for clean transitions between different/split braids (and laid rope/twine) and/or release end knots. Maybe we should have a "useful/decorative sling-knots" thread... help spruce up some of our (non braided works of art type) slings!



Makes a nice knot securing a tassel release.

Matthias

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on May 27th, 2004 at 2:24pm

wrote on May 27th, 2004 at 12:50pm:
Wow! That's thorough.

Does the mw knot let you adjust the size of the loop? I guess I'll have to find a piece of twine and find out! I've used double diamond knots for clean transitions between different/split braids (and laid rope/twine) and/or release end knots. Maybe we should have a "useful/decorative sling-knots" thread... help spruce up some of our (non braided works of art type) slings!



Makes a nice knot securing a tassel release.

Matthias


The Matthew Walker Knot does not let you adjust the size of the loop.

I measured and made the loop to fit my hand.  A running turks head knot could be used above it to adjust it smaller but I would worry about it slipping.

In THE ASHLEY BOOK OF KNOTS By CLIFFORD W. ASHLEY (one of the best books in the world) it shows the Matthew Walker Knot as being more then just decorative.  He shows the knot being used as a sling (not the throwing kind) for bottles.

I love knots and braiding ;)

There are a couple ways that I could have went with at the end there.  

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by Hobb on May 28th, 2004 at 11:09am
If you want an adjustable loop, a taughtline hitch or mid-shipmans hitch will work well.  I don't have any pictures, but there are good directions at:

http://www.realknots.com/knots/hitches.htm#tautline

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on Jun 9th, 2004 at 10:35am
My first cradle design weaving attempt was a failure :(
When I switch to using different materiel of varying sizes I expect to have better results.

Currently I'm braiding a smaller version of the sling in the photos.

While I was out hiking on Sunday I gave the sling that I got for making a contribution a try.  I set up a small skinny water bottle as a target and moved 30 feet away.  I hit it on the 2nd throw ;D

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by David_T on Jun 9th, 2004 at 9:38pm
Good sling'n ;D

Keep slinging. Have you made a target per MGreenfield's specs? I believe it is 24" square with a 9" center. He posted a sling challenge a few months back.

2 points for a center hit and 1 point for anywhere else. Five shots--with the highest possible score of 10

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on Jun 25th, 2004 at 10:21am






Here are the closeups that were asked for.  Its as close as I can get.

Thank you very much for helping me David_T ;D




Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by Hobb on Jun 25th, 2004 at 11:22am
That's a nice braiding job.  I always have trouble transitioning between the cord to the cradle -- I get a round, concave pattern and have to add lots of extra loops to the outside strands.  Looks like you don't have that problem!  

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by Yurek on Jun 25th, 2004 at 11:31am

wrote on Jun 25th, 2004 at 10:25am:
[glb]HELP!!![/glb] My photos did not show up in the above post.


If you want to see your pictures, you should put above links between these tags:

[*img] [*/img] - must remove the stars

But this is no problem, we can see your pictures after clicking on the links. Nice slings! I'm curious how you attached the cords to the leather sling.

Jurek

Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on Jun 25th, 2004 at 1:37pm

wrote on Jun 25th, 2004 at 11:31am:
If you want to see your pictures, you should put above links between these tags:

[*img] [*/img] - must remove the stars

But this is no problem, we can see your pictures after clicking on the links. Nice slings! I'm curious how you attached the cords to the leather sling.

Jurek


Thanks Jurek

That worked out OK ;)

I attached the cords to the leather sling with small dabs of epoxy.  I read one time that prehistoricman had and used a form of epoxy.  It seems to hold leather very, very well.  Did you notice the cords are attached to the back of the cradle so that the shot doesn't encounter a bump?


Title: Re: Some photos of a sling I made not long ago
Post by SnapCut on Jun 25th, 2004 at 1:56pm

wrote on Jun 25th, 2004 at 11:22am:
That's a nice braiding job.  I always have trouble transitioning between the cord to the cradle -- I get a round, concave pattern and have to add lots of extra loops to the outside strands.  Looks like you don't have that problem!  


Transitioning is a very difficult thing.  The slipperiness of nylon allows drawing up post transition even post post transition.  Keep in mind when nylon is wet its stretches and is even more slippery.

I braided this sling horizontally not vertically.  I'm just learning to braid vertically.  If you can do what you want to do horizontally do it, it seems much easier and faster.

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