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Message started by TechStuf on Apr 11th, 2006 at 1:34pm

Title: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by TechStuf on Apr 11th, 2006 at 1:34pm

http://www.indybay.org/news/2006/04/1814452.php


http://www.rense.com/general70/elite.htm


TS

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by Tint on Apr 11th, 2006 at 9:52pm
Techstuff,

I just saw "V for Vendetta" the movie.  I thought of you the whole time. ;)

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by TechStuf on Apr 11th, 2006 at 9:59pm
Every body I KNOW has told me that!!!


I'm not that bad....gulp....am I?


That's it.  Now I have to go see it!


TS


Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by CanDo on Apr 11th, 2006 at 10:28pm
rated 'r' in the U.S. so i'd have to sneak in the theatre or wait for the dvd.... not a big problem technically speaking (i've unknowingly snuck into several r rated movies)... but contrary to popular belief, I occasionaly have morals....

looks like an awesome movie, what did you think?

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Apr 11th, 2006 at 11:58pm
The guy has a funny mask :)

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by Tint on Apr 12th, 2006 at 12:55am

wrote on Apr 11th, 2006 at 9:59pm:
That's it.  Now I have to go see it!


TS

You mean you haven't yet! :o
I thought you made that movie!  and that your real name is V. ;D


Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by Taiki on Apr 12th, 2006 at 9:45am

wrote on Apr 11th, 2006 at 11:58pm:
The guy has a funny mask :)


your kidding right ? :o that mask freaks me out:o (must be this thing i have with clowns...)

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by english on Apr 12th, 2006 at 11:06am
I've heard that Hugo Weaving has trouble acting through an unchanging mask, as any actor would, but apparently it's an ok film.  It's all about Thatcher, of course, and a "futuristic" fascist Britain, which sounds interesting, if implausible.

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by Taiki on Apr 12th, 2006 at 3:46pm
Willem Dafoe preforms like a dream as the green goblin in spiderman and that was with a mask too ;D

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by siguy on Apr 12th, 2006 at 3:50pm
undoubtedly you all have heard the story already about the mask, and guy fawkes.  how he tried to blow up the parliament building on the fifth of november.  but that is supposedly his face or some such.  just thought i would mention that.  

ps.  great movie!  i loved it.  i have read some bad reviews for it, but i enjoyed it alot.  i liked how much it made one think.  i am also sure that many of you know that V was originaly a comic book in the 80's.  the future in the comic is actualy our past, so they had to adapt the dates for modern day.

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by english on Apr 12th, 2006 at 4:40pm
Yeah, it was an anti-Thatcherite comic book.  It seems a little irrelevant today, maybe, but I have also heard it has been updated.  I was going to see it at the weekend, but I heard the Jonathon Ross review (or "weview") of it and was warned against it.
 November 5th is our version of July 4th, when Catholics were thwarted from killing James I.  Lots of fireworks, bonfires, and Stuart history on TV.

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by person3 on Apr 12th, 2006 at 5:20pm

wrote on Apr 12th, 2006 at 3:50pm:
undoubtedly you all have heard the story already about the mask, and guy fawkes.  how he tried to blow up the parliament building on the fifth of november.  but that is supposedly his face or some such.  just thought i would mention that.  

ps.  great movie!  i loved it.  i have read some bad reviews for it, but i enjoyed it alot.  i liked how much it made one think.  i am also sure that many of you know that V was originaly a comic book in the 80's.  the future in the comic is actualy our past, so they had to adapt the dates for modern day.

 Even me, a (sopposedly ingnorant) american teenager, knows who guy fawks is.
I only saw the advertisment but it looked like a good movie  :D
isn't this topic getting "of topic"

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by ben_banned on Apr 12th, 2006 at 9:03pm

wrote on Apr 11th, 2006 at 10:28pm:
rated 'r' in the U.S. so i'd have to sneak in the theatre or wait for the dvd.... not a big problem technically speaking (i've unknowingly snuck into several r rated movies)... but contrary to popular belief, I occasionaly have morals....

looks like an awesome movie, what did you think?


Its nice having older friends... or you could allways pick up a bootleg.

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by Douglas_The_Black on Apr 12th, 2006 at 9:23pm
guy who?

Ill hold out untilll the neighbor kid gets the dvd then ill "barrow" it.  :)

I havent been in a movie theater since..Twister? was that what the movie was called? it was about tornadoes or something.  ::)

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by curious_aardvark on Apr 13th, 2006 at 7:49am
english me old china, you don't see totalitarianism sneaking in the back door ?
None of the recent 'anti-terrorism' (where were they during the ira's heyday ?) laws, taken your notice.
Compulsory id cards not ringing any bells ?
Imprisonment without access to the charges let alone a trial seem fair to you ?

Hell compared to thatcher blair's a raging tyrant.
And as for the homeland security acts in america - well lets just say in 20 years time we'll all either look back on now and laugh at how naive we were to let our governments take our freedoms without a whimper let alone a struggle - or we won't be allowed access to history books and laughing will be a proscribed activity punishable by death.
(slight exaggeration there but you get the idea)

Haven't seen the film yet :-)

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by english on Apr 13th, 2006 at 7:59am
Not gonna happen, I think, but I do sometimes think about some of these ideas and think, "hang on, that's not Labour.  Weren't you guys socialists once?"  Tuition fees, for instance.  Big issue for me; I am one of the first to have to pay the whole £3000 a year.  Not a very socialist path of education policy.
 But I don't think it will lead to totalitarianism.  We are basically just mimicking America, which is a shame.  (Why can't we make up our own way, without deliberately infuriating the Islamists etc?)  I see the solution coming when people just calm down, people don't even think about invading Iran, and we try to patch things up.  Maybe when a Democrat is back in the White House. The late nineties was great - why can't we have that back?  And besides, we might not even have the same country in 20 years.  The effects of global warming could cause a massive rise in temperature in summer, and a great decrease in winter; and the rising seas will engulf a lot of the coastal areas, which, let's face it, is much of the country.

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by curious_aardvark on Apr 13th, 2006 at 8:05am
Okay another example (lol - I really do have to go do some work, but this is more fun)

Before the onset of the iraqi invasion (war my arse - 'it's slings and arrows against the lightning' ) Over 1 million people filled the streets saying it  was wrong and not to do it.
Now in a 'democracy' that would have had some weight.
It was ignored because the government - even then - knew it had sufficient powers to ignore the general populace.
that kind of regime ring any bells ?
It sure as hell isn't what I would call a democracy.

Title: Re: Absolute power corrupts absolutely
Post by english on Apr 13th, 2006 at 8:14am
Yeah, but you can get some good comedy out of tyrants.  "Team America", that's pretty funny; and stand-up comics can get plenty of mileage out of politics nowadays.  But if a government of England wants to change the law without asking the populace in any way, then they will have to go through me.  A whiny little grey, old, politician?  Single right hook, that'll settle it.  Unless he's John "Marlon On The Waterfront" Prescott.

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