Many of you probably aren't aware of my 9 to 5 daily grind.  I specialize in marketing.  I am responsible for some of the TV Ad campaigns you see nearly every day.


Here is one of my latest T.V. spots that will likely be picked up by GMC...


http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=a74d21be-156a-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7April


Hope you like it.



TS



P.S.  Here is a first draft of the one above:



http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=fbe4f72c-156c-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7Fools

I liked #1  ;D   Was this not a vote? ::)

I say vote with your pocketbooks.


Vote NO...


To corporate greed and government collusion to annihilate what's left of the thinking middle class.


TS

oh, i can't side with morals on this one...

must support America.
No offense meant to anyone, but I personally don't like that Hitler's architects son is building a city in China for the sole purpose of producing cars.(actually I have nothing against that he was misfortunately related to hitler, but it added drama don't you think?)  America will be gone soon if we don't wake up... I won't get into it here though, it's not the place.

Anyway, nice commercial.

Edit: hey turns out that this was my 600th post :)

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America will be gone soon if we don't wake up... I won't get into it here though, it's not the place.

Then what is 'the place'.....this?..... http://www.multimediapalace.com/animations-02/arrows-gifs/ar1-d.gif


http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=9c2d6a5e75201d7e3936ddc65cdd56a9



Certainly 'the place' of choice for sssssome of thosssse in power.



TS

All immigrants in the country already, illegal or not, should be allowed to stay (except for ones responsible for violent crimes). further immigration must be severly limited. immigrants who went through the proper process, paying all of the fees and such should be compensated.

No matter what may be said, they help the USA function, and have become a part of it.

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All immigrants in the country already, illegal or not, should be allowed to stay (except for ones responsible for violent crimes)

Oh yeah,  that's a great idea.....you're preaching to the choir!  That is.....if the 'choir' is the Reconquista or the Aztlan army.   Things are going to get just peachier and peachier.


http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004848.htm



http://www.rense.com/general70/ten.htm



http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd181.htm



Some should stay, NOT all.   The decision as to who should and shouldn't have entered this country, especially at times as critical as these.....has proved, in the end,  simply to do nothing at all.....while medical, social systems, and other infrastructure components in our country buckle under the strain.


Now what kind of leadership declares war on terror while opening our border wide open ???


The civilian minutemen on our southern border have staged mock incursions with fake rocket launchers, fake nukes, and other plausible WMD's in an attempt to draw attention to the very REAL SHAM that is the war on terror....while the world stayed glued to CNN, CBS....and other 3 letter epithetical propaganda smorgasboards.  Hiding out from the truth by sitting in front of their high definition Babylon Boxes.


Even 3rd world bannana republics know that if you are being targeted by terrorists you close the border to unsecured entry, NOT open it wider......Heck, even Australia has higher immigration standards than we do.....requiring visitors to be hosted privately for one year before applying for work.


The war on terror is a sham.  Just like the war on drugs....the war on you name it...etc.


We are all in the same boat, and it is most unfortunate that it's name is the "Titanic II"


And guess who got the contract to supply the lifeboats?


Helliburton.


http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/



The dichotomy of the 'good guy' 'bad guy' routine is so successful it's absolutely surreal.


Demoncrats/Reaperpublicans.....Right/left......are simply two, supposedly different, sides of the same greedy coin.....who in reality are being led by those at the top, who are 'brothers at arms' rolling around in the same bed.....while those obligated marionettes at the bottom, dance gleefully on their strings.


Instigate a problem whenever it suits their needs....and then present the 'lesser' of two evils from which to choose.


Squeezing both ends against the middle.


And the lemmings always choose the path of least resistance.


Their 'endgame' as they're playing it......is breaking a few important rules.


Seems to me they are begging for their 'game' to get called on account of.....rain.



TS

alright, I see what you mean that not 'all' should be allowed to stay, but the person hauling a dirty bomb across the boarder is a bit different than the masses who are working towards a better life. I personally know several illegal immigrants, they're kinder and are doing more for this country than many citizens who are born in America.

In many ways, the domestic programs set up for American citizens are abused by peaceful immigrants, however this issue can be controlled and dealt with successfully, if the boarders are closed down. (no mass deportation necessary)

I'd like to point out that while a major hole, the boarder isn't the only way terrorists could get into the country; 9/11 hijackers came to america legally via visas. {Don't say that 9/11 was a government conspiracy or anything like that. As possible as it may be, we shouldn't assume that to be true unless otherwise proven; it would be bringing this off topic (ok only a bit of irony there)} In fact, if terrorists wanted to pull off more attacks (not necesarily on the same scale as 9/11) it wouldn't be all that difficult.

That said, the main reason that the boarders need to be closed is because of stress on programs such as wellfare and education. Another major reason is that it would make the (though technically Illegal, blind-eyed)  markets harming American economy, more difficult to operate.

One thing I agree completely with is that America needs to do something. Exxon Mobil has surpassed WalMart as the richest corporation, because our government sits back and watches them steal from civilians. If they continue like this, the lazy Americans, as well as good ones, will buckle under debt from piling up gas on credit cards... possible recession, although a depression and civil war/revolution are possible. (of course the traders, are also a HUGE problem with the oil market, and the government could end that easily enough). As established, uncontrolled immigration is slowing America down. And the U.S. is losing its companies to foreigners. (nothing against foreigners  ;D)

And so we sit back and write rants about the governments mismanagement. After all, it's their fault for letting this happen.  And we say "why aren't the american people up in arms about this?". Time to wake up, guys, YOU are the American people, so what can we do?

It is our government, our responsibility, we are the ones in charge of fixing it. I fear that the ones with the power to affect change have no desire to; somehow we, who alone have no power, must unite and VOICE our opinion, then act upon it. Otherwise, we will "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

That's as far as I can go, what do we do next?

Ok,  I have just one more thing to say and then I'll shut the hell up....


http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=0e08c02c-15a5-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7


TechStuf

wrote on Apr 4^th, 2006 at 10:11pm:

I'd like to point out that while a major hole, the boarder isn't the only way terrorists could get into the country; 9/11 hijackers came to america legally via visas. {Don't say that 9/11 was a government conspiracy or anything like that. As possible as it may be, we shouldn't assume that to be true unless otherwise proven; it would be bringing this off topic (ok only a bit of irony there)} In fact, if terrorists wanted to pull off more attacks (not necesarily on the same scale as 9/11) it wouldn't be all that difficult.

If you aren't going to assume the government did it because we don't have sufficient proof, then why are you blaming terrorists? Do you think we can prove terrorists did it?

That's a nice ad there.
 Politics schmolitics.
 Immigration is a fundamentally excellent thing for a country.  Solely in terms of economics, immigration will provide what an ageing population needs.  In my country, I know, we need immigrants, because everyone's getting older (staying around longer instead of letting the inevitable occur - scared of death), and young immigrant men will provide the labour required to power our economy to feed this growing grey horde.  People, greedy, stupid, myopic people, are no longer having children, which they see not as the primary reason for their life, or the way by which their life will be defined, but as an inconvenience.
 Immigration is what your country is.  I know that here in England, we have 383 people per square mile.  In America, it is 76 people per square mile.  I think that maybe immigration is not something you should stop.  (And Australia, with its ridiculous immigration controls, has a density of 6.4 people per square mile.)  Why halt immigration?  These people will work hard.  The only drain that they will create to the economy is if they start sending money home, to family.
 
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Even 3rd world bannana republics know that if you are being targeted by terrorists you close the border to unsecured entry, NOT open it wider......Heck, even Australia has higher immigration standards than we do.....requiring visitors to be hosted privately for one year before applying for work.

 I live in a country that has lived "under the threat of terrorist attack" for my entire life, and from long before then, the majority of the 20th century.  We have always had our borders open; even when the Troubles were at their worst, and the Irish were coming to England, bombing department stores, shooting coppers in the street, we didn't close the flipping borders.  Terrorism is not a big threat.  You are more likely to be killed doing so many other types of innocuous activity - driving, catching a bus, flying a plane, going hunting - than you are in a terrorist attack.  I wouldn't be too worried about terrorists if I were you.  Everyone seems so paranoid, afraid of death, like you can somehow avoid it.


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And so we sit back and write rants about the governments mismanagement. After all, it's their fault for letting this happen.  And we say "why aren't the american people up in arms about this?". Time to wake up, guys, YOU are the American people, so what can we do?

 Only New Hampshire has the constitutional right to rebel against a government they don't like.  The rest of you guys will have to try and get amendments.  (Yeah, like that's going to happen.)
 And you say that immigration harms government welfare programs.  I say: What government welfare programs?  You don't have a national health service like other civilised countries - you just turn off life support machines when someone can't pay.  People on the minimum wage can't really live (see 30 Days, for instance), and you don't give benefits to anyone.  And, before you tackle the bloody terrorists (who are, for the most part, an imaginary enemy) or "poverty in Africa" or any other stupid campaign, you should start using renewable energy resources, turning off your bloody computers, hold back on your use of cars... It's really quite simple: Either you worry about people destroying your "civilisation", and really giving half hearted attempts, and you exacerbating the situation, or you worry about something real, that can and probably will kill many many millions of people.

you know  ::) i like something a comedian said around here in response to facist like party that has been trying to get into goverment for years they also feel that every immigrant should be booted back to where it came from his words are as follows...

'they can come here they can stay here and they can work here. i Don't care the world is round and they have to go somewhere so why not here...'

and lets face it..for a comedian thats wasn't very funny...it's just his point of view and i totally agree on it...

i would also like to ad that politics is what destroys this world..together with those bigshots Love for money...

they are sending their money back home.  They are also getting free health care and school and most do not pay taxes, sort of a cash in hand deal.  This is not England and we do not have the health care system that you have there.  Here if you are a person like me (not even making middle class) and get hurt your s.o.l. without paid insurance coverage, now I'm not upset by people looking to better their lives, I am all for it, but things will have to change.  Some Tax payers here have paid into Social Security all of their lives and will not benefit from it when it comes time for them to retire.

English stated:



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Terrorism is not a big threat.

Someone should fly you across the pond 1st class to address that illustrious body who knowingly and unknowingly sponsors it.  State sponsored terrorism is one of the biggest, ugliest rackets since war was invented.  And let's not kid ourselves here....England and America both are neck deep in that quagmire.


There are many forms of 'terrorism'......many of them too devious and right under your nose for you to acknowledge, much less thoroughly investigate.



TS

Roy you have a point.  Keep robbing Peter to pay Pedro....and somethings gotta give.


And give......


And give.


The bible, speaking in reference to America, stated that in the time of the end....


"The foreigner among you will get above you very high."


And I don't know about others, but it seems clear to me that they are, in many ways, above the law, at least.


And they KNOW IT.


Why should I have to pay my speeding ticket when an arrogant illegal immigrant, emboldened by his 'organization' eats them up and spits them out, while having head on collisions with Americans because some are too proud and stubborn to drive on the RIGHT side of the road?


To those who care to research the matter.....it's quite clear what is happening.  And it is sponsored at the highest levels of power in our government.


It's been obvious for years that their plans for a New World Order could not be implemented using the highly impractical method of raising the 3rd world to America's standard of living.


Only by lowering our own could such be achieved.  


But hey.....join your local chapter of the freemasons....skull and bones....or the order of the serpentine......and all is forgiven.


So, in the end.....you're either IN or OUT....FOR them or AGAINST them.


Take the mark of the beast and get the antidote to their poisonous treachery or don't say they didn't warn ya.



As for me and my house,  We will serve the One True God.



Not the god of money, the god of this world, nor our own puny selves.



For any who might be so inclined....I won't entertain accusations of 'Racism'.  I'm a realist not a racist.  And the reality is, reverse racism should neither be coddled and condoned.  It ain't cute and cuddly like a child throwing an occasional tantrum.  


I welcome the prospect that some of any and all races might join hands and honestly face the juggernaut of Megacorporate/Government greed and corruption.  


There is so much beauty in ALL cultures.....too bad we so often let FEAR and love of money overcome our all to easily eclipsable faith in God, our fellow man, and ourselves.



TS

I see.  Terrorism, meant as in, corporate greed.  You know... we've all (that is, liberals) been saying that corporation should slow down, shut the f up, leave us and everyone alone.  Greed seldom helps.
 There's beauty in health, and corporations just ain't good for the health.

Techstuff wrote

"The bible, speaking in reference to America, stated that in the time of the end....


"The foreigner among you will get above you very high."

That's a funny bible you have there Tech - mine makes no reference to America at all. I have checked, and nope, no mention of the Country founded 1700 years after it was allegedly written.

Was God writing it for the Americans in particular, cos he knew they would need it? A bit like the Mosaic Law supposedly composed when the Children of Israel had not yet invented Viniculture includes Laws for Vineyards as well? Shame God couldn't have provided laws relating to the use of Nuclear Weapons or Nerve Agents at the same time.

Tech - god is not an American. Jesus was a Jew from a province of the Roman Empire. WE are foreigners as far as he was concerned. God is not a white man, and nor was Jesus.

Pat

"The more I see of Christians, the more I love Satan"

Pat

not again :( this isn't niceness anymore :(

Start a thread on religion and politics, it gets nasty.

Pat

thats why politics and religion should never mix ;) That is how most of the major wars in the past came to pass lets learn from it and try Not to make another feud or war or something shall we :-/

I agree totally.

But I will not let Techstuiff post this sort of stuff unchallenged.

Pat

Hey I saw a bumper sticker the other day that sort of fits now to this post....


 I don't know where I'm going, but why am I in this hand basket?

wrote on Apr 5^th, 2006 at 10:34am:

I agree totally. But I will not let Techstuiff post this sort of stuff unchallenged. Pat

why not ? he feels like sharing his beliefs its not like tech is pushing them on to us (not in my opinion anyway) so i don't really see what the problem is  :-/ the kind of people that ring your doorbell and tell you the end of the world i near Those get me ticked off...

the point of not having a war well the christians wheren't happy about what the muslims where saying the muslims werent happy about what the jews were saying and so on and so forth.i don't care what anyone says i know my own truth and thats enough...

the kind of people that ring your doorbell and tell you the end of the world i near Those get me ticked off...

That's the kinda guy he is  ;D.

Pat

nope he just states it here he doensnt push it in my face or pm's me every now and then to tell me the joy of christianity or whatever it is (sorry TS i ain't that good on religion) so i see no problem really

alright guys (Pat) can we try not to get this thread locked? it still has potential for a productive discussion.

all agreed in that one  ;D back on track that commercial actually look nice (for as fare a car is something nice for me:PLol)

Leeds is well within his right to expose his beliefs....and I'm sure he would recognize the validity to the saying:


"If we don't believe in the freedom of speech of those we despise, we don't believe in it at all."- Noam Chomsky


I mentioned my own country and failed to mention Leed's or a few other modern nations mentioned in that same book....


Truth is,  The Holy Bible makes mention of various nations that would be influential in our time.



Although it is understandable why some would prefer it be a 'dead' book......it's prophecies are very much alive and run contrary to many a thwarted earthly hope and dream.


http://www.artisanpublishers.com/cgi-bin/ARTstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=USA%20IN%20BIBLE%20PROPHECY


http://www.thercg.org/books/aabibp.html#13



The United States and Great Britain both figure heavily in Bible Prophecy.



Leeds is entitled to use his observational skills to see his own way and to dissuade him from certain truths.....and, like many of those obligated to secret societies....


Embrace the dark side.



Secret societies love to make use of various geometries linked with magic.....pentagrams etc.....and  the 'hexagram' or 'seal of solomon' in their rituals......They know the power of the Bible's prophecies.....Which is why they try so desperately to bind them with their machinations.


The Bible warned that their deceit would try and fool the very elect of God, were it possible.


http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html


http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml


http://www.hornes.org/theologia/content/mark_horne/what_is_the_worth_of_666_talents_of_gold.htm



Solomon fell from grace.....having been given great wisdom and riches.....Taking the 'hexagram' or 'Seal of Solomn' .....the number 6 6 6 for his symbol.



So,  While some prefer to relegate the Holy Writ of God to fable and simpleton fantasy.....the enemies of Christ and His followers work tirelessly to see her ruination largely by takeover from within.


http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html



Christ's enemies have much to say in agreement with Leeds' remark:


"The more I see of Christians, the more I love Satan"



And the bible of many who say they are Jews:



Is in total agreement with Pat.



Much of the world is in harmony with Pat's philosophy and will, itself, soon be in the throws of tantrum .




I appreciate Taiki's and other's  tolerance......of my position.  



And as Pat might notice,   I haven't said he was going to pits of hell as a sinner, even once!



Hell,  it's not my decision to make.


Pat said:



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Start a thread on religion and politics, it gets nasty.

Given his statements....I must assume that the letter 'T' on the word "it" was superfluous.



Taiki's right......and although some may be willing to tolerate the views of others, some among others are all too willing to take the road of violence and hate.


That the vast majority of those who gather here are able to accept, reject, privately study, or simply overlook the views of one another without descending into juvenility is a testament to the superb quality and commensurate rarity of this website!


I will not 'co-opt' the "Other Topics" section of the forum any longer, and I thank those for whom freedom of speech is a worthy practice, not a lofty and fragile ideal, or worse.....like the bad habit of smoking....best relegated to the safety of smoker's lounges...or other niches where those already of like mind go to simply reinforce and reassure one another.


Thank you for your indulgence.



TS

Well like said before,  we can avoid looking at certain topics. ;)

or just be slightly more tollerent towards our fello members ;D

Secret societies...?  Bible prophecies of Britain and America...?  Woah.  The Bible seems much more prescient and interesting book than when I read it.  To be honest, I found the Bible a little bit boring, especially the early bits of Isaiah.  It's all about peace treaties and warfare between the minor states of the middle east.  And let's be honest, the New Testament?  I mean, could it be more obvious that Christ was just a hippy?  The guy just had ergot on his bread, methinks.
 In any case, Techstuf brings up some sometimes interesting titbits (or in America, where you are prudes, "tidbits") of information.  There's no point riling the guy.

wrote on Apr 6^th, 2006 at 5:19am:

Secret societies...?  Bible prophecies of Britain and America...?  Woah.  The Bible seems much more prescient and interesting book than when I read it.    In any case, Techstuf brings up some sometimes interesting titbits (or in America, where you are prudes, "tidbits") of information.  There's no point riling the guy.

This is not the first time that I have heard of this, pretty interesting stuff if you listen.

Oh sure, I've heard all kinds of things about "Secret Societies utilising the power of the book of Revelations" and other, frankly kooky, things.  I think I probably preferred the Bible when it was just a really old, relatively interesting book on the Creation Myth of the Hebrews, but I suppose this possibly all-too-modern look at what the Bible says has some... possible... merit.

Techstuff said;

I will not 'co-opt' the "Other Topics" section of the forum any longer

Hoorah. That's all I wanted.

Pat

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"Secret Societies utilising the power of the book of Revelations" and other, frankly kooky, things.

http://www.hornes.org/theologia/content/mark_horne/what_is_the_worth_of_666_talents_of_gold.htm


http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html


http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml



Yeah,  such "Myths" don't get any 'Kookier'.....


It' pretty 'whacky'.....a real 'wild scene'.



::)




God bless,



TS