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Reply #15 - Nov 21st, 2020 at 7:38am
 
More seriously. Here's a link to an article about these spheroïds.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep30614

Sometimes difficult but really interesting.
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Reply #16 - Nov 22nd, 2020 at 6:42pm
 
TOMBELAINE wrote on Nov 21st, 2020 at 7:38am:
More seriously. Here's a link to an article about these spheroïds.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep30614

Sometimes difficult but really interesting.

Yep, throwing projectiles is the only thing that makes sense. So I'm happy to say they were sling stones. If they're smart enough to manufacture these, then they're smart enough to twist some grass or use a strip of skin and make a simple sling.
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Reply #17 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:30am
 
It's a little hard to see exactly how heavy the stones they were looking at are but they seem to be ranging from 0.2kg up to something around 2.2kg. I think it would be pretty difficult to sling 2.2kg and a lot of those stones are pretty heavy for slinging in my opinion but some are right around the size I would use. One thing that I think is very interesting is that the stones thrown by hand were calculated to be disabling against an impala-like animal. That's one stone being thrown by one person. They were easily killing them then with multiple people and multiple stones. Really shows how effective a stone can be and great that they were able to quantify it. A very useful little equation that we could implement for stones we know are being slung. If they did have slings and were using these stones (which to my mind is absolutely possible, I mean they were intelligent enough to specifically seek out and transport these stones from another area for a specific purpose and they were using various other tools) then there is no question that they were very effective hunters. Stones really are no joke.
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Reply #18 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:43am
 
Kick wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:30am:
It's a little hard to see exactly how heavy the stones they were looking at are but they seem to be ranging from 0.2kg up to something around 2.2kg.

Three things to think about, firstly a lot were an inch to 11/2 inches around.
Secondly prehumans were a LOT stronger than modern humans. Something people always seem to forget.
Lastly these primates would have had incredibly strong and dextrous shoulders and arms, they were made differently from us. Their sense of balance likewise.

So I've gone ahead and convinced myself and will now tell everyone as if it's established scientific fact Smiley
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Reply #19 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:56am
 
Those are good points. I'm really pretty small and weak to be honest so I am one hundred percent sure they could out throw me even if I had a sling and they didn't Cheesy
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Reply #20 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 4:01am
 
Kick wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 3:56am:
Those are good points. I'm really pretty small and weak to be honest so I am one hundred percent sure they could out throw me even if I had a sling and they didn't

Me and you both... plus I'm old as heck.
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Reply #21 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 10:57am
 
I think I found the olders trace of a sling. Cheesy

But more seriously. Just a band of leather. This hypothesis needs a silex to cut the leather and a hunted animal. It's all.
Thank you Kilisi for your photo.  Smiley
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Reply #22 - Nov 23rd, 2020 at 11:06am
 
TOMBELAINE wrote on Nov 23rd, 2020 at 10:57am:
I think I found the olders trace of a sling.

But more seriously. Just a band of leather. This hypothesis needs a silex to cut the leather and a hunted animal. It's all.
Thank you Kilisi for your photo. 

Ahaha... I've been playing with my video editor, here's a short clip tutorial of that sling throwing a big stone. https://youtu.be/mqu-plfFFj4
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Reply #23 - Yesterday at 3:04am
 
Sorry, I realize that I used a french word in my post.
Silex is flint.
With a knife of flint, the cavemen could make a sling with the leather. It's a very easy technology.
I don't test in the true life and the archeologists don't find these artefacts.
So we don't know.
But I like this idea.
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Reply #24 - Yesterday at 3:36am
 
TOMBELAINE wrote Yesterday at 3:04am:
Sorry, I realize that I used a french word in my post.
Silex is flint.

Merci beaucoup, je ne suis pas comptant a la langue... un petit peu seulement
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