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Re: Sling hand grip trigger
Reply #15 - Aug 8^th, 2020 at 10:37am

Archaic Arms wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 12:06am:

It does make me wonder.
I opt for the full hand grip instead of just thumb and index, and if the release cord is thick enough, I don't think I can actually throw hard enough to make it slip.
For example, I threw this 590g stone exactly 50m today (I measured the distance accurately with a string), using my 15" Balearic sling.
Video here: https://youtu.be/0Qpz8_gXCaA
(slightly better quality hopefully coming soon)

Didn't experience any slippages, so I think it mostly comes down to the release design and how one grips it.

The stone after retrieval:

I’ve slung stones like that with a 36 inch sling but never with such a short one. That is insane. Grin

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Mersa Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Druid Posts: 2599 Australia Gender:	Re: Sling hand grip trigger Reply #20 - Aug 9^th, 2020 at 6:22pm I’ll have to read that thread when I get time. Looks like there’s a few great designs on the first page but I need more time to take it all in . I’m going to have to get that 200m confirmation and make a new sling, i really want to try some different designs even just to try
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Re: Sling hand grip trigger
Reply #21 - Aug 10^th, 2020 at 12:50am

Morphy wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 10:37am:

I’ve slung stones like that with a 36 inch sling but never with such a short one. That is insane.

It's certainly not something I would recommend doing all day... At least without a lot of conditioning first.
I'm now curious to see how much I could increase range with a longer sling.

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Reply #22 - Aug 10^th, 2020 at 2:24pm

AncientCraftwork wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 4:25am:

Your sling reminds me of an Assyrian sling. They loved short slings and huge stones like that. On old images of Assyrian slingers you can also see them grip their slings with their full fist and I assume their release cords trailing out a long way below. On other old images sometimes we see very short slings like that. Some slingers say the short length is a false representation, I think the length is very realistic and possible, as you are proofing with your videos.

That had occurred to me earlier, thanks for reminding me of that image. Their sling length looks similar in proportion to mine, and yes, I agree that the length is still practical for warfare. The smaller length also means that slingers need less room to operate, and thus more slingers could be squeezed into one area if need be. Quite curious.

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Re: Sling hand grip trigger
Reply #23 - Aug 10^th, 2020 at 2:25pm

AncientCraftwork wrote on Aug 8^th, 2020 at 6:51am:

Not surpising considering the stones they used:

(sling here is a modern repro, stones are Assyrian sling stones)

To sling these huge stones effeciently, a simple index-thumb pinch is no longer sufficient

Those are some great, consistent looking stones, I would love to know their weight.

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Re: Sling hand grip trigger
Reply #24 - Aug 13^th, 2020 at 12:18am

The one I put in 'Goliath' was, I believe, 4.8oz and just about the size of a closed fist. It's hard to work out the exact g forces involved because of the variable arcuate dynamics, but that stone's relative weight at moment of release was prodigious! I worked a fairly close approximation once with a 2.5oz ball bearing in the star pocket, at 32lbs with the 49 inch distance rig.

Partnering with the right archery release manufacturer would produce an awesome product. I use a Scott Archery Caliper Grip release with my bow, that employs a rolling sear for the crispiest launch ever. Like breaking mini candy canes with every shot. I'm certain that a release trigger sling setup made by them would ROCK.

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Reply #27 - Aug 16^th, 2020 at 7:24am

In Jaukes defense I dont think he meant it maliciously. I’m not sure the motivation behind it but there’s a good chance he didn’t realize how badly it would affect the threads involved.

@GlitchinTheMatrix- I’ve said for a long time one of the reasons I’m a fan of the sling is there seems to be little that big companies can do to “industrialize” it therefore little that can be done to make it a huge business.

But looking at the potential of the trigger release and the fact you can get a full hand grip with a lightning quick release I guess I was wrong. This definitely seems like it would be a big benefit.

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Reply #28 - Aug 16^th, 2020 at 8:41am

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No longer partaking in online discussions, but still slinging in the real world.
Deleted a lot of my big posts because I no longer find myself in those opinions and I don't want to spread confusement / misinformation to new slingers

It's his choice , he didn't mess the forum , he messed his posts for his reasons.
It would be better to just edit in a warning instead of deleting every post though.

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