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Reply #30 - Sep 11th, 2020 at 12:36pm
 
The problem with carrying a cane is you have to be old and actually need it. 

Which usually means you need it for balance and really can't use it as a weapon.

And if you're young and healthy, you draw some rather suspicious looks from law enforcement who know that a cane makes a dandy weapon.
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Reply #31 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 6:23am
 
It doesn’t matter if a cane can be used as a weapon as long as it could plausibly have another purpose.  A cane designed for stability is questionable for someone young and stable on their feet (unless you’re this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNQTqMkezc ) , but there are other “sticks” you could carry without looking suspicious. Police officers I’ve talked to have recommended carrying a large flashlight because it has a non-weapon use no matter who you are.
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Reply #33 - Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:35pm
 
   I almost bought a combat umbrella back when I had Kali and Odin was walking a hundred miles a week.  Kali forced me to walk no matter the weather. Such an umbrella would have been a good idea then.  I still walk my dogs but the new batch have a fenced in back yard and I'm older so I walk a fraction as far as I used to. 
    The stick might be the first weapon ever used by man or man's ancestors.  It worked well then and it works just as well now.  I wouldn't consider walking my dogs without a good, stout "walking stick." It is my peacemaker when stray dogs challenge us.
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Reply #34 - Sep 24th, 2020 at 12:51am
 
I designed my monkeys fist lanyard after an incident walking my dog several years ago. Three strays started harassing my dog, and I really wished I’d had something better than my foot to fend them off.  The monkeys fist (see Timpa’s videos) extends to over four feet long (strangely that feature was never demonstrated by Timpa), but it is small and light enough to take jogging.  I’ve seen runners carry real sticks... it’s just awkward.
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Reply #35 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 3:45pm
 
   Agreed.  A stick would be prohibitively cumbersome to run with.  There's one thing I learned from trial and error.  The sling is a terrible anti stray dog weapon.  A walking stick is far superior.  Why?
    Most challenges by strays end up being nothing.  If violence does occur it's usually a short, harmless flash fight.  With a stick you can match the level of aggression.  A sling has only one setting: injure of kill. 
    The biggest reason is that dogs don't see the sling as a threat.  You can rotate a loaded sling around your head all you want.  Dogs don't react to it.  They don't know what it is.  Raise a good stout stick over your head and 99% of the time the dog(s) will back down.  Only three times have I ever had to resort to actually bashing an attacking dog. 
    Though I don't walk as far as I used to I still dog walk every day and wouldn't be without my peacemaker.
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Reply #36 - Sep 27th, 2020 at 11:04pm
 
NooneOfConsequence wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 6:23am:
It doesn’t matter if a cane can be used as a weapon as long as it could plausibly have another purpose.  A cane designed for stability is questionable for someone young and stable on their feet (unless you’re this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNQTqMkezc ) , but there are other “sticks” you could carry without looking suspicious. Police officers I’ve talked to have recommended carrying a large flashlight because it has a non-weapon use no matter who you are. 


When I was an MP we carried wooden night sticks but they were breakable.  We much preferred a Kel-lite flashlight for defense.   They are big, heavy, and indestructible.
https://kellite.com/
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Reply #37 - Sep 28th, 2020 at 9:22am
 
I actually have a MP truncheon but it's a Czech one and made of some kind of rubber so quite heavy and a bit flexible. It has a reinforced plastic tip and makes for a very painful hit. It's a shame it would be absolutely illegal for me to carry it around. Finland is a very safe country anyway but if it was more Wild West over here I would take that.
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Reply #38 - Sep 29th, 2020 at 6:42am
 
It seems every culture has a form of protection/martial art based on a stick. The Irish have bataireacht for the shillelagh, developed when the English declared that they could not carry a weapon.
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Reply #39 - Oct 6th, 2020 at 3:18pm
 
   There's a Folk Song about shillelaghs and for the life of me I can't remember the name of it.  The gist of the song is that a young man and his cousin are walking along minding their own business.  It might be Christmas or the cousin's birthday or both.    They pass by a recruiting sergeant and a drummer boy.  The sergeant  starts giving them a hard time about being slackers and it ends up in a fight with the sergeant and drummer boy using rusty old sabers and the young man and his cousin using shillelaghs.  The sergeant and drummer boy get the crap beat out of them  and that's how the song ends.  Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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