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Jul 31st, 2020 at 4:01am
 
I am not sure where to place this topic. Hammer throwing is slinging, but not the sling this site was made about. And is it a primitive weapon? yes, and no.

Either way, I just thought this was interesting fact to share. Male olympic hammer throwers sling a ball weighting 7.26 kg at speeds around 25-27 m/s.
Using the kinetic energy calculator this would give an impact energy of 2268.75 Joules

What a force ! And to think of the momentum. Makes me wonder what damage a hammer-thrower would do to a Roman Testudo.

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Reply #1 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 4:13am
 
Hammer throw is the proof that at a certain weight the most efficient throw is going to be a pirouette, but I think it’s mainly because your body would struggle to hold it in any other style.
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Reply #2 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 4:20am
 
Yes, with their technique they maximize the force a human body can sling.
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Reply #3 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 8:25am
 
They also maximize projectile energy by building up speed over a relatively long time.

Energetically speaking, that is on par with a modern hunting rifle. This is why I want to come up with a way to sling projectiles supersonically some day... would definitely require a compound sling though, and if the second stage released in the wrong direction it could be very dangerous for the slinger.
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Reply #4 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 11:28am
 
I'm pretty sure that was developed specifically to ruin the day of guys in formation with overlapped shields.  I think it predated the Roman Empire and was used against a phalanx, first though.
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Reply #5 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 11:38am
 
Bill Skinner wrote on Jul 31st, 2020 at 11:28am:
I'm pretty sure that was developed specifically to ruin the day of guys in formation with overlapped shields.  I think it predated the Roman Empire and was used against a phalanx, first though.



Very interesting. I haven't found any historical sources for this, or did they just consider it as slinging/slingers?
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Reply #6 - Jul 31st, 2020 at 12:33pm
 
You’d have to get within range of javelin, arrows, and plumbata to take out a shield wall with a hammer throw... maybe there just weren’t too many people who survived to talk about its effectiveness.
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Reply #7 - Aug 1st, 2020 at 3:25pm
 
I've also theorized that the hammer would be an excellent weapon to use against advancing formations.  Unfortunately, I've never found any articles where this actually took place historically.
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