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J Interfector Viris Spurii Online Posts: 1649 Gender:	Problem with thin efficient slings Jul 28^th, 2020 at 12:38pm This problem has been solved
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Re: Problem with thin efficient slings
Reply #1 - Jul 28^th, 2020 at 1:39pm

The solution is to use the same style each time, become consistent with it and make sure the spin you are getting is perfectly rifled. I’ve seen no problem with them. I can assure you a high degree of accuracy is possible with cords at least as thin as paracord. No need for massive cords if you choose not to use them.

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Reply #2 - Jul 28^th, 2020 at 2:19pm

yes that is another reason you cant go too long on the cords , there is little torsion resistance.
I'm trying to figure things out because I made a paracord sling and I get angles of attack more random than the tightly braided natural fiber slings. Maybe if I improve in the paracord low torsion then it will benefit my control with the better torsion slings.

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Reply #4 - Jul 28^th, 2020 at 4:25pm

you'll have to find the mean and that is personal. I like thin tightly braided split pouches, right now it's the best choice for me for performance ,accuracy , lifetime. I want more lifetime(thicker) but that would get in the way of the other two and that I dont like, I'm performance over lifetime. I had slings that lasted a month and that didnt bother me because they were performing good and others that lasted many more shots but didn't like them and used them for tossing around very abrasive ammo or for warm ups.

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Reply #5 - Jul 28^th, 2020 at 4:39pm

What problems with controlling the rotational axis did you encounter more specifically? My current sling is very thin and light, too. However my only problems were that the stones flipped out during windup from time to time.

You could try wrapping the sling's coords tightly with another fine yarn, by that they get more stiff just like wire, while staying light.

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Reply #6 - Jul 28^th, 2020 at 11:08pm

My solution to this problem was to shorten my slings considerably so that I can have relatively thick, stable cords. Because I believe you are bio-mechanically limited to how fast you can throw with short slings, you can make them thicker without losing power for the most part. I still make my slings a lot lighter than Luis's though, as they are designed for a giant!

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Re: Problem with thin efficient slings
Reply #7 - Jul 29^th, 2020 at 12:30am

So, the issue here is that thin, light cords tend to not stay in place as well (i.e., twist) and that affects retention? Because I've been using rather thin slings recently, and I've notice some twisting as well (Though I'm not sure how it's affecting my slinging.)

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Reply #13 - Jul 29^th, 2020 at 11:01am

Again it also makes obvious why Balearics use such stiff cords, a stiffer cords translates to better control over how the pouch turns. They've optimized their slings for that.
And as a result the range of the Balearic slingers is lacking compared to other slingers, but consistent accuracy at shorter ranges is higher.

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Reply #14 - Jul 29^th, 2020 at 12:33pm

J wrote on Jul 29^th, 2020 at 10:56am:

I ordered some 20mm and 30mm steel balls so I can do better range testing with Y-sling soon.

I cant see how you'll be able to differentiate the results you'll get from y vs traditional slings using steel BBs. steel bbs are very smooth I expect similar release friction from both designs, spin orientation will have very little impact on trajectory because of the smooth spherical shape and the high density.

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