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Cupped pouch sling demonstration
Jul 12th, 2020 at 8:37pm
 
This isn't intended to be a demonstration of how awesome cupped pouches are.  But it is a little demo of how they can hold a projectile very well and still hit a target.  I was just playing around today and decided to do a short recording.

https://youtu.be/z17OLpWALhk
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Reply #1 - Jul 12th, 2020 at 11:41pm
 
Anyone who’s seen you sling should not question the efficacy of your set up. Just my two cents.
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Reply #2 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 1:10am
 
!!!!! Joe you’re a beast!!!!!
No problem in that setup.
Hard throw
Accuracy on point
And all that style just overflowing

Bloody brilliant
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Reply #5 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:41am
 
haha the reloading was awesome!
and the clip is seamless. very nice

AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:01am:
Even a small delay can still mean a totally different trajectory on long distances.


in this world you cannot eliminate friction. If the friction is consistent it cant cause inconsistencies, if he used consistent clay ammo he would adjust to changes in delay in a couple of shots
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Reply #6 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:48am
 
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Reply #8 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 4:06am
 
@jauke
AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:48am:
Even with consistent ammo, the friction is not consistent with a shepherd sling

Why?

AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:48am:
The friction is also made inconsistent by grip technique, release technique, speed of throw,

that's the slingers problems, practice

AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:48am:
, and the build of the sling itself. Does it have inconsistencies?

this remains the same shot after shot

AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:48am:
Then there is the action of the stone swaying in the pouch, even tiny, due to the changing lengths of release cord and retention cord caused by wide grips during a throw.
Swaying which can only fully be eliminated with extra friction.

Yes it is true this happens, cupped slings have it more than split pouches, generally there has to be a good match between pouch design and ammo design. if the match is good then even if it happens the swaying is repeatable and follows a pattern much like the turning of the pouch around the rotor. In the end they align giving a rifle spin.

a good sling , style, and practice are needed. same as with any other sling variable or weapon system
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Reply #9 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 4:17am
 
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Reply #10 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 4:20am
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 3:57am:
The only way to eliminate some of the aspects that cause inconsistent friction that are still there, even with consistent ammo, is through a 3-point pouch construction, sphere balls and a pinch grip (no wide grip.)


round ammo has more air friction than elongated rifle spun ammo. at long ranges there is clear superiority of elongated ammo. also from my limited experience of the  Y-slings the tumbling around the rotor is not as easy to control because the tension is mainly on the release cord and with the pinch grip you suggest there is even more inconsistency in the orientation of the pouch during release.
The Y-sling is too specific and this is its biggest weakness
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Reply #11 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 4:24am
 
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Reply #12 - Jul 13th, 2020 at 4:31am
 
AncientCraftwork wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 4:17am:
It is all so tiresome  Cry

What do you not see, that I see?
What do I not see, that you see?


we dont know we are trying to see
I've gone through my Y-sling excitement phase I know I can't change your mind and I'm not trying to change it, I just provide criticism , so you may see what I see when it's time. Or if Y-slings are truly better then you'll just built better arguments through criticisms and I will learn from you.

P.S.: just saw the reply above and below. I should try a 3 cord y-sling instead of a 2 cord one.
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