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Jun 27th, 2020 at 5:06am
 
Made a new clip only to discover that one of my cameras was not filming.... so no video evidence but here is the situation and the conclusions:
I lengthened my sling from 37 to 50cm be able to hit the target at 30m more easily.
At 10m results stayed the same as far as accuracy.
At 20m I struggled to reach the target but after 30 practice throws got the same results as the shorter sling.
At 30m I had the same problems reaching the target with the 50cm sling as I did with the 37 Sad  Only way to reach the target was to aim higher then the actual target.  If I were going for distance I can understand that but I thought 30m should be a distance you can just aim for; or am I wrong?

Am I missing something for 30m distance?  My ammo is only 30g should I try something heavier?
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Reply #1 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 5:52am
 
My ammo is only 30g should I try something heavier?

Yes, try 150

I make my rusty balls 150 and 200g respectively now. Slings so much nicer.
But once you start using heavier ammo you should sling more from the hip to prevent strain. Don't put all the power into the arm.
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Reply #2 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 7:22am
 
Und noch etwas ist zu beachten. Die Stellung Ihres Rotor verändert sich
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Reply #3 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 10:34am
 
I wouldnt use a sling shorter than 60 cms. My preferred ammo is between 120-150 grams.

Try upgrading your gear to coincide with your upgraded distance.
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Reply #4 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 3:32pm
 
Shakli wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 5:06am:
Made a new clip only to discover that one of my cameras was not filming.... so no video evidence but here is the situation and the conclusions:
I lengthened my sling from 37 to 50cm be able to hit the target at 30m more easily.
At 10m results stayed the same as far as accuracy.
At 20m I struggled to reach the target but after 30 practice throws got the same results as the shorter sling.
At 30m I had the same problems reaching the target with the 50cm sling as I did with the 37 Sad  Only way to reach the target was to aim higher then the actual target.  If I were going for distance I can understand that but I thought 30m should be a distance you can just aim for; or am I wrong?

Am I missing something for 30m distance?  My ammo is only 30g should I try something heavier? 


You need to aim much higher to hit at 30m. I am not surprised that 30g ammo has a hard time reaching the target. My 143g lacrosse balls trajectory is much lower when I throw, so 30g must really drop off quick (wind resistance). I would follow Jauke's suggestion. Rusty balls are really nice. They can take some punishment. I can sling them as hard as I can and they don't break (yet).  But you can sling them soft too and they won't go far, as long as there is some sort of backstop.

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Reply #5 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:24pm
 
    50 cm is still a pretty short sling IMO.  My ideal sling length is half my height or 38 inches... 96.52 cm.  I suggest you try a longer sling.
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Reply #6 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:46pm
 
Rat Man wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:24pm:
    50 cm is still a pretty short sling IMO.  My ideal sling length is half my height or 38 inches... 96.52 cm.  I suggest you try a longer sling. 

I agree with this, 50 cm is pretty short (this is folded right?) My preferred length, if I put my arms at my sides and hold the sling normally, it is a few inches above the ground. For me that is 27" (~70 cm).

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Reply #7 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 5:09pm
 
Sie suchen eine optimal Länge im Verhältnis zum Körper? Es ist ganz einfach. Hinstellen, die Arme an der Seite hängen lassen. Die Sling der Hand.
Die Sling sollte bis einem Zentimeter über dem Boden reichen. Das ist eine optimale Personen bezogene sling Länge.  Cool
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Reply #8 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 6:44pm
 
30 grams is too light for ammo. Try 100 to 125 grams.
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Reply #9 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 4:15am
 
I pesonally go short - 50 cm
medium - 70 cm
long - 90 cm

But I don't carry the long slings.
Slings around and longer than 90 cm require piroutte for me and I don't bother with them.


The length that Jaegoor suggests would be around 73 cm for me personally so that is close to my medium length.
But more often I find myself using short slings because of obstructions. A 50 cm sling is still 1 meter unfolded.

I do miss the captive release somewhat. It was so nice being able to use 70 cm slings where I previously was only able to use 50.
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Reply #10 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 4:54am
 
Thanks so much for the info.  Going to first make some rusty balls at around 120g-150g,  see how that goes before I change a second variable.  If I still have a problem then I will go for a longer sling. 

I use Greek style release not sure how much that makes a difference.
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Reply #11 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:39pm
 
Hey, ya like everyone said, a little more weight in your ammo will really help it maintain momentum at distance.
I enjoy Greek style a lot. Adding an extra rotation or two might help you harness more power too.
Keep at it! Remember to warm up too
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Reply #12 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:54am
 
I was doing terribly at the International until I switched to Greek and got MUCH better results. It really does seem like a good style for accuracy but not necessarily for power.

For sling length, my current longest sling is a simple paracord sling that's 142cm centre of pouch to release knot. It's pretty darn huge but actually easy to use with the right technique which I think is true of all slings. A video David put up of Puchi slinging in Mallorca is what finally made long slings usable for me without hurting my arm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGmnXHQxi0E

Starting off the sling across the back or across the shoulders gives it that starting momentum that makes it possible to use without having to resort to the very inaccurate pirouette.

For other lengths, it's just practice and getting used to them and then understanding their limitations. If you have a 20cm sling, don't expect to throw across a football field, but that also doesn't mean it's useless. A quick overarm throw at short distances would suit it nicely. Know your sling.
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Reply #13 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 9:46am
 
50cm = 19 inches.
yeah that's really short.

My 20 metre sling is (gets it out of pocket and measures it) 22 inches

And with 60-100 gm stones I'd struggle with it at 30 metres - I mean I can throw a rock over 150 metres with it - but for accurcy you don't want to be putting that much effort into the throw.

So yep, heavier ammo and longer sling Smiley
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Reply #14 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 3:04pm
 
Ok just tried 120g and 150g rusty balls.  With the 50cm sling I get the exact same results as I do with the 30g rusty balls. 
Easy to hit 10m
Not bad at 20m
Have to aim high to hit the 30m Sad

Then used a 140cm sling using the back release from the video Kick put up in the link.  Super easy to use and on my first attempt going gentle my 150g rusty ball soared over my 30m target coming to rest 60m away.

So my conclusion:  It is all about the length of the sling.  Weight of ammo from 30g to 150g seems to have no affect on distance with a short sling.  (With the longer sling I could not feel the 30g ammo and was not able to fire it properly)

Tomorrow I will cut down that 150cm sling to 70cm and see if that is long enough to hit 30m without having to aim high.
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