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Heavy sling bullet from Bulgaria
May 18th, 2020 at 9:26am
 
Published in 2016

https://be-ja.org/index.php/journal/article/view/be-ja-6-2-2016-191-201

Heavy sling bullet, Hellenistic period (early C2nd BCE), Macedonian. Lots of flashing and part of the casting branch, so weighs 136g; even so, it's pretty big (8.3cm) compared to others (say 3cm and around 40g), and the original perhaps weighed around 100g. Some thing these "heavies" were used in engines but they could just be big ammo
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Re: Heavy sling bullet from Bulgaria
Reply #1 - May 18th, 2020 at 9:38am
 
Staff sling ammo? I know it's very obscure exactly when and where staff slings turned up, but could that be a possibility?
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Reply #2 - May 18th, 2020 at 9:47am
 
Interesting b/c the staff sling is only really well attested in the Roman period but it's main advantage is that is allows you to throw heavier ammo (not further) so who knows ! In any case I onder if anyone here has experience with slinging "big" lead bullets (100+g)
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Reply #3 - May 18th, 2020 at 9:58am
 
I've only used stones, but I was just out today with my newest staff sling and I have to say, someone using a staff sling with lead ammo would be terrifying. I hit 3 times out of the first 5 throws on my first time testing it out with good ammo. Someone with practice throwing 100g lead glandes... Ouch.
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Reply #4 - May 18th, 2020 at 10:30am
 
Yes quite unlike the tennis balls which a lot of people seem to use to start off with staff slings. But I also wonder what it's like to hand sling an aerodynamic 100g lead bullet. I mean a "hand-filling" stone must weigh about 120g, so this is like a heavy punch in a compact package
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Re: Heavy sling bullet from Bulgaria
Reply #5 - May 18th, 2020 at 3:39pm
 
actually a 120gm stone is pretty small.
And a decent weight for both distance and target slinging.

So I would imagine the heavier lead glandes would have been used with longer slings and against armoured soldiers.

I reckon you could probably get 250-300 metres fairly easily with a 120gm lead bullet without tearing anything.
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Reply #6 - May 18th, 2020 at 9:29pm
 
I fear I usually sling around 80-90 g (stones) and yes, I do have problems with drag overcoming energy when slinging long.

Would a 100-120g bullet shoot further than a 45g one ?
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Reply #7 - May 18th, 2020 at 10:23pm
 
250-300m will out range most bows, even most composite bows.
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Reply #8 - May 18th, 2020 at 11:40pm
 
I think itís a reasonable weight for a standard sling.
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Re: Heavy sling bullet from Bulgaria
Reply #9 - May 25th, 2020 at 4:57am
 
Size of a 200g lead fishing sinker
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