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Reply #15 - May 22nd, 2020 at 3:10am
 
Morphy wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 4:04pm:
jauke wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 3:04pm:
I know this is slightly offtopic but Ligustrum also makes amazing atlatl darts, it grows straight in the perfect size and the wood is very tough but flexible.  My practice atlatl darts just have fire hardened tips and they have bounced off rock, wood, metal and richocheted into all directions hitting all kinds of objects and the majority of them are still fine.


Not off topic at all. This thread is for discussing any wood(s) and it’s properties. I had to look up that tree. Wasn’t familiar with it.


This is how they grow, 3-4-5 meters high if left to grow. You can see the straight shoots. Makes fantastic dowels in my experience, often in no need of any straightening or sanding.

They also have berries, but these are toxic to humans.
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Reply #16 - May 22nd, 2020 at 11:17am
 
Seems like it might make good shoot arrows as well.
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Reply #17 - May 24th, 2020 at 2:55pm
 
I have made another selfbow of an ash stave in 2 days time with an axe and a victorinox knife.
It was the best piece of wood I had collected so far.
it is the longest of the ones I've made yet, about 1.8 meters in length, and the most powerful
It shoots wonderful. It's easy to hit a 50 by 50 cm target at 20 meters all the time. It feels great to use a bow of my one even though it is very crude.
I simply make it with a d shape and it bends through the 'handle'
No professional tillering or measuring, everything just done by eye.
No sanding either. My lungs cant handle sawdust. Theres still chips here and there but thats fine by me. 2 or 3 big knots on the back but it I tried to work with them.
After shooting yesterday about 100 times, there was a bit of set of course, but it is easily rebent.
It is not an old piece of wood, only a few weeks, but there were no cracks after cutting and debarking, and there are no cracks anywhere now that the bow is finished (finished by my standards). I got good faith it'll get stronger by time.
I am confident it could take small game.


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Reply #18 - May 24th, 2020 at 4:57pm
 
I am working on my very first bow, thats ash i cut down last year
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Reply #19 - May 28th, 2020 at 7:32am
 
Can anyone identify what tree this is from?
The things on the right where standing straight up
I did not have time to shoot a picture of the whole tree
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Reply #20 - May 28th, 2020 at 7:50am
 
Almost looks like magnolia but not confident it is.
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Reply #21 - May 28th, 2020 at 10:32am
 
That would also be my closest guess just based on the seed. Around here our Magnola have shiny big leaves but I cant think of anything more likely.
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Reply #22 - May 28th, 2020 at 1:43pm
 
Can you take a picture of the bark?
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Reply #23 - May 29th, 2020 at 3:58am
 
Bill Skinner wrote on May 28th, 2020 at 1:43pm:
Can you take a picture of the bark?


Sadly I cannot any time soon, maybe in a few weeks.
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Reply #24 - May 30th, 2020 at 2:47am
 
My ash bow cracked and snapped through the handle. But I don't feel bad about it, good learning process.

Looking at the pictures I had tillered too little from the limbs an too much from the handle. The limbs where doing not enough work. My hawthorn bow is still holding up fine and has a better power distrubution over the limbs.
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Reply #25 - May 31st, 2020 at 6:54am
 
One of the most common mistakes early on is either too much bend or too little right outside the fades. Or handle section if talking D-bow. Although some bows can be tillered that way on purpose depending on what you are trying to do.

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Here’s one that’s tillered a little heavier in the near handle. Regardless how you tiller, it should ideally correspond to the front view profile of the bow. This one wasn’t necessarily done that way but was a proof of concept on something for which I have forgotten the reason for it’s been so many years lol.

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Reply #26 - May 31st, 2020 at 11:54am
 
That bow looks amazing, way better than I will be able to make near term.
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Reply #27 - May 31st, 2020 at 3:11pm
 
jauke wrote on May 31st, 2020 at 11:54am:
That bow looks amazing, way better than I will be able to make near term.


You might be surprised how quickly your bows progress Jauke. Look at Walter for a good example on that.
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Reply #28 - May 31st, 2020 at 4:16pm
 
Very impressive bow.
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Reply #29 - May 31st, 2020 at 8:27pm
 
Nice! Was looking at the pic and got lost in the perfect tiller Smiley
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