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May 14th, 2020 at 5:46pm
 
Went out to split the staves into smallrr ones, and to test how dry, well i didnt realize i cut em too small roughly 44in in length.  I also spraineed my ankle while cutting this tree down, i have no other excuses then that. I know there are different types of smaller bows,  i might go that route. Any suggestions?? It is ash, i also took a walk to some other ash trees on my land.  Those I will cut down, to the correct length, unfortunately i will have to wait till next year to work on.
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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2020 at 6:39pm
 
Not a problem at all. Ever spliced together billets? Sounds like this is your chance. Sister billets are especially nice since they are from the same log you can insure the two billets are as close to each other in properties as possible.†

You can use them for making small bows but be warned they will grossly underperform against even a very crude long bow. This isnít a huge deal but unlike the longer poplar bows where with a back and taking it slow you might actually end up with a decent shooter, a 44Ē bow even reflexed with sinew will not perform near a decent long bow.
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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2020 at 6:55pm
 
Good to sse your reply.  I have never spliced wood, at all. This ash was gonna be my first ever bow.
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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2020 at 7:05pm
 
Sorry this happened. The ankle too.
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Reply #4 - May 14th, 2020 at 7:10pm
 
2 piece takedown bow
Or a nice atlatl
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Reply #5 - May 14th, 2020 at 7:10pm
 
Me too, but looking up the spliced billets,  i think thats something  that i can do,jyst without powertools, as i dont have a bandsaw anymore.  The ankle, mostly healed. Took a few days off of work, gives issues occasionally but i can live with it
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Reply #6 - May 14th, 2020 at 7:15pm
 
Mersa wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 7:10pm:
2 piece takedown bow
Or a nice atlatl

I wouldn't even know where to start on a take down bow.
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Reply #7 - May 14th, 2020 at 9:34pm
 
Spliced billets is the route I would take as well.
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Reply #8 - May 15th, 2020 at 5:19am
 
I am a bow noob as well but I can recommend using smaller saplings or young trees first, ones you don't need to split. I am collecting staves left and right to dry but can't help work away at some fresh ones either in the mean time, even if they crack. Make sure there are not too many knots, and especially not on the belly, they might add character but they sure aren't easy to work with.
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Reply #9 - May 15th, 2020 at 3:14pm
 
What are thoughts on carving out a bow with green wood?? I got plenty of that, in poplar,  and i got some huge maple staves i cut up a couple montha ago.  I will be cuting down another ash tree, all mine have big burls on em, i can use in the future.

I might try an tackle the spliced wood later on, cuz i have no idea what iam doing.
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Reply #10 - May 15th, 2020 at 6:25pm
 
If your maple staves are what we called rock or sugar maple, I would save them for later and practice on the green poplar, which will probably check, crack, split and warp.   But, you will learn to make a bow and you still have the maple to use  Wink
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Reply #11 - May 15th, 2020 at 7:38pm
 
The maple is a sugar maple, i tried to tap it. But it was partially dead. So i cut it for firewood.  I will let it dry till next year, and save it for later. I do have dry and green poplar.  From a few different trees i had cut down.
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Reply #12 - May 15th, 2020 at 8:32pm
 
vetryan15 wrote on May 15th, 2020 at 3:14pm:
What are thoughts on carving out a bow with green wood?? I got plenty of that, in poplar,† and i got some huge maple staves i cut up a couple montha ago.† I will be cuting down another ash tree, all mine have big burls on em, i can use in the future.

I might try an tackle the spliced wood later on, cuz i have no idea what iam doing.


With a few exceptions I like to take 3-4 staves and reduce them to floor tiller. Reseal the last 8 inches on each side and toss them in a warm dry place. Then on to the next. Once reduced to floor tiller, especially woods like poplar, will dry super fast. No need to bother with green bows. If you have a hot box with a fan in it you will have more bows than you know what to do with in a matter of a week. Without, just put them in front of a box fan and flip once in the morning and once at night. Two weeks max before itís ready.

And yes, I agree with Walter. Save those beautiful maple staves for when you have a little practice. Such a beautiful wood...
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Reply #13 - May 16th, 2020 at 5:11am
 
Great advice,  thank you very much. I think i will be starting out some rough shaping within a week. I also found an old maple i cut up last year. That has some nice branches to practice with., along with the poplar
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Reply #14 - May 17th, 2020 at 4:00pm
 
If you have a heat gun, you could make a Plains type highly deflexed bow.  I have a bow that is 56 inches long that I draw 28 inches.
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