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Reply #15 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 12:16am
 
Wow really nice I love the setup!
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Reply #16 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 12:46am
 
Mersa wrote on Apr 21st, 2020 at 11:37pm:
Just like my distance throws with same sling , consistent throws over 100 with little effort and max throw of 185m with odd stones. Want that 200m confirmed throw so bad.


I have thrown a 220m throw once, and it was with a 30" sling, and a perfect egg-shaped stone, probably like 80-100g. I had to grunt loud to get it that far. Smiley All my other throws were sub-200m.  I'm pretty much in the same boat as you with a 27" sling, probably around 180m max.  Maybe give a slightly longer sling a shot? or is the purpose to do it with your current sling?

There was one user, BrianGrubbs, I think, that launched a 240m throw with a 24" sling, figure 8 style. He had one video of him throwing for distance on YouTube. Dude had an F'n cannon.  Maybe try the figure 8, if you get the lean-back like he did, I bet it's possible.
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Reply #17 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 1:05am
 
The purpose is to hit 200 with the 27” sling. And as soon as I get that confirmed I’m going to make a dedicated distance sling and push for those big numbers like 250,300,350 etc.

My figure 8 isn’t as powerful as my other throws, I get the most distance with my “overhand” Byzantine or my “overhand” Heli. Side arms probably the strongest but I get too much projectile spin and always seems to loose pace
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Reply #18 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 7:09am
 
You can calculate lower bounds for release speed given a known distance thrown.

vel_LB = SQRT(g*dist)

This assumes 45 degree (optimal) release angle and air resistance effects to be negative (no insane headwinds basically).

For a projectile to go 220m it absolutely needs >46m/s or >103mph.

Note that the real speed value for stones is probably a fair bit faster as they are very significantly affected by air resistance. The lower bounds are probably pretty close to the speed that would send a lead glande that distance though.
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Reply #19 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 3:09pm
 
don't think brian used anything as short as 24 inches.

And yeah unless, you start bringing your waist into play you're doing more 'throwing' than slinging.

Try standing side on to the target and keep your back foot rooted.
This forces you to use your whole body and - most important - brings your waist and core muscles into play. It also gives your arm more time, lengthens the spower stroke and adds a lot more momentum into the throw while reducing tricep usage.

Slinging is all about technique. The more of your body you can bring into play, the harder you'll be able to throw and the longer you'll be able to sustain it.   

You've got a good sidearm style, just needs to start using less arm and more waist Smiley
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Reply #20 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 3:13pm
 
As far as length goes - my target sling - meant for 20 metres is only 26inches.
I mean yeah I can throw over 150metres with it, but it's an effort and as soon as you feel you're making an effort - you've lost technique.

My standard everyday sling is usually between 32-34 inches. And I'm a short arse Smiley
A longer sling (up to a point) and a better technique increases power and reduces arm wear.
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Reply #21 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:31pm
 
I haven’t had much experience with “long slings” I mainly use my 27”.
Putting your body into the throw definitely adds power but I think it’s not as drastic a The timing of the power stroke. That for me is the main part of the technique.
I find a little “hop step” can also add power for distance.
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Reply #22 - Apr 24th, 2020 at 9:26am
 
just bear in mind that moving forward will actually reduce the overall speed of the missile release as you are Moving into the forward movement.

So keeping your back foot rooted and taking a half step with your front foot, gives you a longer powerstroke while not moving into the direction of the throw and reducing overall velocity.

It's like the pirouette style with a long sling.
Unless you are also whirling the sling round your head at the same time - then you can only spin the sling as fast as you can rotate your body. And unless you are an olympic hammer thrower - that WILL be slower than you can spin the sling round your head while stationary.

The guys in guam have a technique where they continue to spin the sling round their heads while also pirouetting - it's bloody impressive.
Inaccurate as hell - but seriously good for pure distance !
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Reply #23 - Apr 24th, 2020 at 7:35pm
 
I will agree with your statement CA but as you’re probably aware I don’t really ever use pre rotations so my movement forward almost happens before the sling starts to gain momentum. There is a timing aspect for sure.
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Reply #24 - Apr 26th, 2020 at 6:16pm
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Apr 24th, 2020 at 9:26am:
It's like the pirouette style with a long sling.
Unless you are also whirling the sling round your head at the same time - then you can only spin the sling as fast as you can rotate your body.


SmileyThis is a common misconception.

Pocket Radar a fun device. I have one. Slinging.org member too, who is an American soldier, has one. I don't remember his name.
Here to slinging, with Pocket Radar:
https://youtu.be/4FgcysbplWA

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Reply #25 - Apr 26th, 2020 at 6:31pm
 
Now I remember him: Mark Harrop
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Reply #26 - Apr 27th, 2020 at 2:25am
 
Oh, dang Timpa! I missed this video somehow. You should put that data into the "Chronographs" thread in "Here be Maths". That is impressive. I'm surprised it picked up a ball bearing, I tried slinging rocks next to it and it didn't pick it up. Maybe I'll have to try again.  Thanks for sharing this!
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Reply #27 - Apr 27th, 2020 at 4:20am
 
I think most "radar" guns will read metal ammo more easily because metal is more reflective than stones or baseballs, not 100% sure though.
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Reply #28 - Apr 27th, 2020 at 7:45am
 
That timpa pirouette!!! BOOM!!!
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Reply #29 - Apr 27th, 2020 at 11:28am
 
That’s a mean throw you got there. I wonder how deep it would penetrate into ply wood?
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