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Reply #15 - Mar 7th, 2020 at 4:02pm
 
This is exactly what I needed to look up Cheesy Thanks! I tried to compact them together but they just wouldn't budge. I think the warp is too dense and tight. I've been wanting to make a new loom as this one isn't all that good and some of the nails got pulled so much they came loose. Who would have guessed cardboard wouldn't make a permanent loom...? What sort of distances between the nails have you found to work?
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Reply #16 - Mar 7th, 2020 at 5:09pm
 
Kick wrote on Mar 7th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
What sort of distances between the nails have you found to work?


I try not to use looms Cheesy If I have to, mine are very often .... well... stiff cardboard with slits. Sometimes improvised backstrap-like contraptions. I had my go at peg looms once or twice years ago and that was it.

It will depend on your string diameter what you can get away with and your skills. There is no definite answer. Just leave more than 1 weft string diameter between the warps (obviously  Cheesy).
Or fix the first row with twining. That gives a decent gauge. I recommend to experiment a bit and to make a sample. On cardboard if need be Wink

The trick is really in correct weft tension and beating. Potter describes it very well. Regarding peg looms and using them, he is a better source than I am on this matter.

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Reply #17 - Mar 28th, 2020 at 7:37am
 
Second attempt! I'm much happier with this one. This was using thicker jute and came out much better... but also huge Cheesy I think now, having learnt a lot from these attempts, I'm going to combine what I did with the first one with what I did with this one. A diamond shape with this thicker material with fewer sticks should turn out great. Lots of time to experiment so let's see how attempt 3 goes Cheesy
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Reply #18 - Mar 28th, 2020 at 9:30am
 
Well done! You are visibly improving your work!

Looking forward to number 3  Smiley.
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Reply #19 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 6:03am
 
This is my set-up... and how to use a hammer to weave !
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Yes, I didn't buy the "no tool" approach, I like my weaving needles and keeping (some) sanity while weaving :p
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Reply #20 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 8:37am
 
you use needle to pass the thread around the sticks?
that would take 6h+ only for the weaving  Huh
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Reply #21 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am
 
Hey, I have the time to do it this way ! If it's finished too early, I will not be able to try it, so I take my time :p

But I already promised the author I will try to be more true to the modus operandi next time Wink
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Reply #22 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 5:36pm
 
Please note that at point 3.1, you need some quality skewers, low cost one eat your string and you can't really split them to clamp the needle at point 3.8.

Also : don't use 2 colors for the twining, use 1 after the other, to make strips, it will look nicer (picture soon)
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Reply #23 - Apr 24th, 2020 at 9:55am
 
Thanks for the feedback! I will add your comments to version 2 of the document when I can spare some time.

Caldou wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am:
But I already promised the author I will try to be more true to the modus operandi next time


The author highly welcomes to see variations of the modus operandi Wink

Caldou wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 5:36pm:
Please note that at point 3.1, you need some quality skewers, low cost one eat your string and you can't really split them to clamp the needle at point 3.8.


I always split the sticks before starting to weave. I usually break one or two sticks either way. When I can't split the sticks, I twine slightly looser, so I can push the sticks easier out with the needle. Sometimes it's possible to punch the needle in the end of the sticks nevertheless and pull them through.
Eating the string: Not such an issue with linnen/flax/hemp, but I guess you know that. Shorter sticks also help.


I'm looking forward to your pictures!

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Reply #24 - Apr 26th, 2020 at 3:26pm
 
Teg wrote on Apr 24th, 2020 at 9:55am:
I'm looking forward to your pictures!



Here they are :
the pouch :
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it's a bit tiny :
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But I may have overdone it with the cords :
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I will have to find some nicer skewers and a way to double the strands nicely, to get strips of color each row.
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Reply #25 - Apr 26th, 2020 at 5:33pm
 
Thanks for the pics!

As discussed in private, here is a "quick-and-dirty-Sunday-evening-method" to make these stripes. I guess there are also other methods...

Caution: This method will produce a slightly bulky rim. So when tensioning too hard, you might run into "distortions", but I haven't tested that.

The basic idea is to pass the unused threads along the sticks, then twine over them to hide them. I let the pictures speak for themselves.
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Reply #26 - Apr 26th, 2020 at 5:35pm
 
Enjoy!
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Reply #27 - May 14th, 2020 at 8:14am
 
Thank you Teg, for your patient instructions.
Small faults but I'm happy anyway.
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Reply #28 - May 14th, 2020 at 2:02pm
 
TOMBELAINE wrote on May 14th, 2020 at 8:14am:
Thank you Teg, for your patient instructions.


You're welcome!
Thank you for trying it out and showing the result!

De rien!
Merci pour essayer a faire une fronde de cette maniere et la montrer!
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Reply #29 - May 29th, 2020 at 4:30am
 
I finally finished off my third twining over sticks sling. I finished the pouch a while ago but only just got around to finishing the cords. Turned out not too bad but I think I can do better. Learnt a lot in the process of making this one.
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