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what is the use of a short sling ?
Apr 15th, 2019 at 6:44pm
 
I know that slinging is very personal and what works best for some is awful for others. I've tried short slings ( thumb to elbow [we use loop to pouch for length compared to body?]) and a medium sling ( the length of my arm) I don't really get why anyone would use a short sling. I can't really get any power or range from one , I've used Apache, fig-8 ,side arm , and Byzantine styles, would the short sling users tell me how y'all do it?  Huh Shocked
ps. I'm 6ft if that helps with the number length of the sling
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Reply #1 - Apr 15th, 2019 at 10:26pm
 
It’s pretty simple... Short slings are good for really heavy ammo.
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Reply #2 - Apr 15th, 2019 at 11:26pm
 
A two ounce 27-29" balearic sling is very good for  heavy (4oz+) ammo.  Cheesy
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Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 4:13am
 
Accuracy , hunting in brush , indoors? They have their place . It's not all about launching lead over 200m
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Reply #4 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 4:33am
 
Firstly, thumb to elbow is extremely short- that's what- 11-12 inches? Nobody uses slings even close to that short.

Short is considered about 24 inch, typical balearic length.

Either way short slings are faster and easier to shoot, require less space, and are generally easier to be accurate with.

I've never really got the idea of short slings being better for heavy ammo. Short *thick* slings are very safe with heavy/large ammo as they are very stable, but a short paracord sling with a slim pouch (for example) loses that advantage. It's more about thickness and stiffness.

My experience with long slings is that you can actually throw pretty damn heavy rocks far without much effort. In fact this probably maximises my launch energy of any slinging I do.
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Reply #5 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 5:52am
 
I consider a sling the length of an arm short.

The authenthic Balearic sling I received from Mr Livermore is this size.





I consider a sling the distance between your hand and the feet medium

And a long sling 1 meter +

So for me it would be, plus minus, respectively 60, 80, 100 cm.

So for each person it can vary. A sling is adjusted to the slinger. Ideally you carry three slings for the different tasks, for short, medium and long distances. I do notice each size being good at their task.
But that is what is nice about slinging. Even with 3 slings you are still very light and mobile.
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Reply #6 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 11:24am
 
JudoP wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 4:33am:
Either way short slings are faster and easier to shoot, require less space, and are generally easier to be accurate with.

I've never really got the idea of short slings being better for heavy ammo. Short *thick* slings are very safe with heavy/large ammo as they are very stable, but a short paracord sling with a slim pouch (for example) loses that advantage. It's more about thickness and stiffness.

My experience with long slings is that you can actually throw pretty damn heavy rocks far without much effort. In fact this probably maximises my launch energy of any slinging I do.


I would agree with this. Long is better for heavy ammo but a short fat sling is more stable.
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Reply #7 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:04pm
 
The stiffness of a short sling is indeed what makes a difference. I said in my previous post it was about 60 cm for me and I use cords that are 6.5 milimeters in diameter. Today I actually tried various sizes and at 60 cm I experience too much slack in the sling. The right spot was at a length of just over 50 cm. At that length it feels like I experience zero slack with these cords, and they really, really increase the confidence in the shot. Where the slack ends for me probably also changes with different cords. I feel very little slack with Luis' Balearic sling too and it is somewhere between 50 and 60 cm long. I also did some slinging with a sling that has the length from my hand to my feet, and it is too long for my comfort to use at shorter distances, although it is probably a medium sized sling for most. I am only 173 cm tall so. It starts to feel sloppy with slings this long at short distances. That being said, I could probably throw further with them, but not more accurate at long distances either. With a 55 cm sling I can only really throw clay to about 130 meters distance, but much more accurately than I ever could do with long slings. So If I had to choose one sling I'd go for a short one.
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Reply #8 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 5:43pm
 
I've used a few Balearic style slings down to about 20" with some success. Is there a decrease in power? Yes, but there is still plenty of force behind it and often times better accuracy. As others said, there is an advantage to using a short sling in woods or tight terrain. The technique is paramount to acquiring any power, I prefer a Byzantine or Greek style with shorter slings.
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Reply #9 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 9:00am
 
It’s not clear that everyone is using the same measuring method when discussing the length of the sling. Are you measuring retention loop to release knot? Or measuring to the pouch?
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Reply #10 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 3:12pm
 
Heavy stones definitely have a long sling.
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Reply #11 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 12:33am
 
NooneOfConsequence wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 9:00am:
It’s not clear that everyone is using the same measuring method when discussing the length of the sling. Are you measuring retention loop to release knot? Or measuring to the pouch?



Standard measuring on this forum is typically center of the pouch to release knot. (which is nearly the same as the center of the pouch to the retention loop).
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Re: what is the use of a short sling ?
Reply #12 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 6:09am
 
I never measure from the pouch to end of release cord, because I tend to make my release cords longer than the retention cord, as I like to hold the release cord from my fist, rather than from a finger.

Edit: Probably because Hubert's sling is the best sling I've ever had, and the release cord fits into my fist. It is so soft, it feels good to hold it in the hand!

This obviously has carried on into my own slings.
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Reply #13 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 6:46am
 
I just hold the sling like one normally would, and measure how long it is from where you grip it, to the pouch.
Seems like a fine general standard.
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Reply #14 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 4:54pm
 
Es gibt eine optimale Länge.
Halten Sie die sling seitlich.
Der Beutel / Brief sollte gerade so denn Boden berühren.
Es ist eine gute Länge für sehr exaktes schießen. 😁
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