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Excavating pit house village
Nov 24th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
A couple pics of two rooms in a pithouse village  that is currently being partially excavated. I think there are about a dozen rooms and several grain storage pits. It was continually occupied from at least 750 AD to 1280.
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Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2018 at 3:07pm
 
Are you there working on them as well?
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Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2018 at 3:29pm
 
No. I was there this am trying to get some pics. The crew showed up about an hour later. The SO invited the head guy to talk about the dig on a local radio station and I managed to ask him if they had found any atlatls or slings. He said no, just a few dart points.
We left them to their work and wandered off a short distance to play sling catch.
I also tested my new sling with the woven pouch cover. I know I threw at least 50 stones, but the pouch straps still look brand new
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Reply #3 - Nov 24th, 2018 at 4:01pm
 
Wow. That's awesome. Has this been a recent find, or been worked on for awhile. Maybe in time they might find some slings, or possibly atlatl  darts
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Reply #4 - Nov 24th, 2018 at 5:53pm
 
Known, but it was a long walk to get there until the town built a road connecting two hwys.  The road misses the village by less than 50 yds so it is now well known and acessible.
Twenty some years ago, I walked into the forest north of this site
About an hour later I sat down on a rock and very slowly the village began to materialize around me. Turns out, I was sitting on a rock wall in the center of the village. I am not the first to see it. That is just how I happened to find it.
They have found skeletons, arrow heads. burnt beans and corn, pottery, some shell jewelry, manos and matates.
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Reply #5 - Nov 25th, 2018 at 10:05am
 
That's too bad about the encroachment. But that's still an impressive find. Has anything been written about it publicly at least?
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Reply #6 - Nov 25th, 2018 at 11:35am
 
    Very interesting.  What state is this?
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Reply #7 - Nov 25th, 2018 at 6:39pm
 
AZ. The Basket Maker 1,2&3 people lived and roamed in much of the sw.  People in the early period were hunter/gatherers. Then they began growing corn, beans and amaranth. The Basket Maker 3's mainly cultivated crops and gathered wild food.
Check out Basket Maker III on the net Smiley
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Reply #8 - Nov 25th, 2018 at 8:40pm
 
I would love to see what kind of weapons they might have used.  What an interesting experience that must to sit there and take it all in.
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Reply #9 - Nov 25th, 2018 at 9:27pm
 
It is beyond interesting! I will never forget cutting a couple yucca leaves one am and climbing up a ridge to a small ancient ruin and tapping out the yucca leaf fibers on a dead agave stalk. The tapping sound attracted ravens and blue birds, which flew around the peak about twenty feet below me. Attracted by the ancient sound of tapping? I like to think so.
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Reply #10 - Nov 25th, 2018 at 9:59pm
 
Who knows Walter. I've heard genetic memory can be passed down. Who's to say how many hunders of years those birds may have heard that sound?

So hey do you happen to know if they used bows, sling or throwing sticks and if so what they might have looked like?
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Reply #11 - Nov 25th, 2018 at 11:17pm
 
By 750 AD they were mostly using bows, though dart points were also found at this site. No mention of slings Sad. Ceramics have replaced the need for most basketry. I have found a ton of potsherds and one broken pot in situ, atlatl points and one axe head. All above ground and not in a village. Never have done any digging. Just saying.
Skeletons have long faces, stocky bodies, women 5 feet tall and men an average of 4" taller.
Skeletons were delivered to a first nations group in the AZ desert
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Reply #12 - Nov 26th, 2018 at 6:24am
 
It looks very similar to Medieval houses that are occasionally  found in Ireland.
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