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Re: Helicopter - Can We Rename This Style?
Reply #30 - Oct 22nd, 2018 at 3:12pm
 
How long is a piece of string? Cheesy I find the best sling length suggestions are ones where you use your own body as a measure. Every person has different length arms, different body proportions and then the slight variations of style which all adds up to each person making use of slings in different ways. The perfect sling length for fig 8 for me might be different for you so I would say experiment. Saying that, C_A has a good way of measuring sling length and I found the sling he sent me was a good length. It was based off my height if I remember correctly?
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Reply #31 - Oct 22nd, 2018 at 3:15pm
 
something like that Smiley

Any length sling that can hang straight down at your side without touching the ground can be used to easily sling vertical.

That said - any sling can be used to sling vertically - just aim up Smiley
It's not a function of the sling but of the slinger.
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Reply #32 - Nov 8th, 2018 at 12:07am
 
Besides Lay people who into slings like we are know what is meant by the helicopter
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Reply #33 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 10:00pm
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Oct 22nd, 2018 at 3:15pm:

That said - any sling can be used to sling vertically - just aim up Smiley
It's not a function of the sling but of the slinger.


... or just stand on a table Smiley
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Reply #34 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
What about just Helios style?  Descriptive of technique with a nod to the Greeks.  Sounds more ancient and is descriptive enough for anyone with a rudimentary understanding of Greek root words to get the reference.
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Reply #35 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 9:25pm
 
Why Helios? Because it is like a planetary orbit around the sun?
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Reply #36 - Nov 15th, 2018 at 11:11pm
 
Why nod to the Greeks ?
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Reply #37 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 11:06am
 
Curious Novice wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 9:25pm:
Why Helios? Because it is like a planetary orbit around the sun?

Yeah, its still has elements of the original name but sounds better in my head I guess.  I agree that Helicopter is a dumb but descriptive name.
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Reply #38 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 11:12am
 
Thearos wrote on Nov 15th, 2018 at 11:11pm:
Why nod to the Greeks ?

simply because they had slingers and the root word for helicopter is greek, at least that was my thought at the time.  We could nod to any other slinger culture as well but the root word just seemed more appropriate.  I could be biased though, My Grandfather came from Loukas, or Argos, can't remember which.  Soooo....It might be a biased reach but I liked it.   Grin
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Reply #39 - Nov 16th, 2018 at 9:13pm
 
Helios - a nod to the sun god, actually.  But classic and descriptive.  Great idea! The Blue Raja approves!
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Reply #40 - Nov 21st, 2018 at 9:51pm
 
BAMBULA wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
Where here in the forum posted the most comprehensive video catalog of various styles ? If there is one, please show it to me. If it does not exist, it must be created. There are questions not only about the style of "helicopter", but also about some other styles.   So far I have used this directory to identify styles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72cIgoZ7wNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj0r3VqWP4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WADQStF-Rq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBh2B3oeKtM
If not all styles are described here, then maybe we need to use a different directory ?



I strongly agree with your point.
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Reply #41 - Nov 21st, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
BAMBULA wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
Where here in the forum posted the most comprehensive video catalog of various styles ? If there is one, please show it to me. If it does not exist, it must be created. There are questions not only about the style of "helicopter", but also about some other styles.   So far I have used this directory to identify styles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72cIgoZ7wNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj0r3VqWP4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WADQStF-Rq4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBh2B3oeKtM
If not all styles are described here, then maybe we need to use a different directory ?



Imagine my surprise when I clicked on the second video and found that I myself had commented on it TEN YEARS AGO!  Cheesy Grin
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Reply #42 - Jan 16th, 2019 at 5:33pm
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Oct 7th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
Helicopter works for me.

It's discriptive: exactly like fig 8 and pirouette.

It's derived ' spiral wing' in greek.
Although  helicopter is french noidea
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Borrowed from French hélicoptère, from Ancient Greek ἕλιξ (hélix, “spiral”) + πτερόν (pterón, “wing”).


There is no common directory. people seem to be making more daft names up every damn week.

Byzantine and turkey - great examples.
Of daft names - that is Smiley


As an older member, I am completely with you on this one.
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Reply #43 - Jan 16th, 2019 at 5:39pm
 
Blue Raja wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
All of the slinging styles, w/ one glaring exception, have names that evoke the history and the culture of slinging: Balearic, Greek, Figure 8, Apache, Byzantine, and Pirouette.  Even the dreaded "turkey style" (which sounds like some poorly executed country western line dance as in "hee-haw, now everybody strut...turkey style!" actually, maybe I am on to something here - if my Turkey Style vid goes viral, I will share the profits w/ everyone here) (sorry for the digression!) fits in.

As stated in the Subject line - the glaring exception is of course Helicopter.  How is it that we name a slinging style that probably pre-dates written history, after a powered flight machine invented in 1939?

Insofar as we are the preeminent source of sling knowledge, we have the privilege of calling things what we choose.  Who will join me in my humble campaign to rename Helicopter?

Is anyone else troubled by this?

Would I do better to devote my time to practice (as my slinging vids demonstrate - I can certainly use more practice!) and not worry about nomenclature?

For those who wish to join me, what are your suggestions for renaming Helicopter into something archaic?



For someone that was around when we came up with those names they were just to help us classify them so when we were talking to each other we were on the same page with each other. I really wouldn’t worry about it.  Just keep going out there and to use a term an older member MarmotHunter used “ Give local geology flying lessons !”
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Re: Helicopter - Can We Rename This Style?
Reply #44 - Jan 16th, 2019 at 6:30pm
 
winkleried wrote on Jan 16th, 2019 at 5:39pm:
a term an older member MarmotHunter used “ Give local geology flying lessons !”

I love it Grin
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