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map of slings and sling related artifacts from archaeological sites
May 31st, 2017 at 6:15pm
 
Here is a map of slings and sling related artifacts from archaeological sites around the world. Data from Manfred Korfman. Map created by Eric T. Scov.
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Reply #1 - May 31st, 2017 at 6:19pm
 
This map is of slings and sling related artifacts from archaeological sites in the Great Basin. Data from Heizer and Johnson. Map created by Eric T. Scov.
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Reply #2 - May 31st, 2017 at 7:00pm
 
Very interesting. I wonder if its possible to correlate these spots with any external features. Such as availability of smooth stones. I wouldnt think theres a 1:1 correlation but it would make sense that the sling would be used more in such areas.
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Reply #3 - May 31st, 2017 at 8:59pm
 
That is an interesting hypothesis the slings definitely seem to be centered around the equator and coasts and river basins, smooth stones would be readily available here and but are also centers of population throughout history, so it could also just be a coincidence. What information does correlate with external features are the materials the slings are made out of. The sling materials reflect the available resources in geographical areas. African slings are usually made completely out of plant material, while slings in arctic regions like Siberia are almost completely made of hide and sinews
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Reply #4 - Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:59am
 
Does just go to show that, although the Bealeric Isles get all the fame, the sling really is an international invention.
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TobyAttle wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 8:59pm:
That is an interesting hypothesis the slings definitely seem to be centered around the equator and coasts and river basins, smooth stones would be readily available here and but are also centers of population throughout history, so it could also just be a coincidence. What information does correlate with external features are the materials the slings are made out of. The sling materials reflect the available resources in geographical areas. African slings are usually made completely out of plant material, while slings in arctic regions like Siberia are almost completely made of hide and sinews


I guess one way to find out would be to use the areas that dont have access to stones as controls and then compare the ratio of access vs lack of access and see if theres any correlation. Ive had an idea about something I call niche weapons for awhile. The idea is basically a study of why certain cultures use certain tools and what niches exist that each tool fills. Most cultures will have similar niches but based on the enviorment will fill those niches with different tools. Everything seems to come down to cost/benefit analysis and the sling is one of the best examples.  With exetremely high costs and benefits.
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Reply #6 - Jun 1st, 2017 at 11:40pm
 
Morphy wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
TobyAttle wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 8:59pm:
That is an interesting hypothesis the slings definitely seem to be centered around the equator and coasts and river basins, smooth stones would be readily available here and but are also centers of population throughout history, so it could also just be a coincidence. What information does correlate with external features are the materials the slings are made out of. The sling materials reflect the available resources in geographical areas. African slings are usually made completely out of plant material, while slings in arctic regions like Siberia are almost completely made of hide and sinews


I guess one way to find out would be to use the areas that dont have access to stones as controls and then compare the ratio of access vs lack of access and see if theres any correlation. Ive had an idea about something I call niche weapons for awhile. The idea is basically a study of why certain cultures use certain tools and what niches exist that each tool fills. Most cultures will have similar niches but based on the enviorment will fill those niches with different tools. Everything seems to come down to cost/benefit analysis and the sling is one of the best examples.  With exetremely high costs and benefits.


Yes, but finding a culture that does not have access to something as simple as stones would be difficult to find. Oceanic peoples and cultures set in far north places covered most of the year by ice might be the closest to a control group, but even they had slings. Many slings have been found in use by Siberian reindeer herders and fishermen, and Filipinos used very long slings. I can not think of a culture that did not use slings, even Bedouin nomads in the Sahara desert made slings to throw rocks when out of the dunes. Your idea about niche weapons though is genius. People will always make inventions to solve problems in their environment.
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Re: map of slings and sling related artifacts from archaeological sites
Reply #7 - Jul 27th, 2017 at 10:15pm
 
The group down in the Florida pan handle in the first map is pretty rock free.  It's basically sand on top of limestone.  It is also the area where ducks and geese migrate to on the Atlantic flyway.  And while there aren't many stone in the area, there is a lot of high grade clay that you don't have to fire.

So, could slings be more for hunting waterfowl in certain areas?
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