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Reply #15 - Apr 10th, 2017 at 7:24am
 
about halfway through a shaped roller design.
Probably have some time to do more tonight.

Anybody know how to work out the volume of an ovoid ?
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Reply #16 - Apr 10th, 2017 at 3:48pm
 
I was primarily using a mix of fig 8s and sidearm, though neither seemed to outperform the other. This with the glande lying across the pouch, pointy bits out of the sides.

CA, for a regular sort of ovoid I think it is as the sphere formula- 4/3(pi)r^3 but instead of r^3 you use the radius along each axis. So it ends up being 4/3(pi)x r1 x r2 x r3.

Not sure if it's irregular though. Might make more sense if you look on the wiki page as there is a nice diagram.

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Reply #17 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 4:11pm
 
My original thought was to work out the volume and then make a square frame of that volume to measure the starting amount of clay in.   
But after thinking about the maths figured that was way way too complicated.

So the easiest way I reckon is to make the first glande the long way by adding a little clay at a time.
Then when you've got it right - weigh it. And use that weight for all the rest.
Which is quick and simple

Currently printing a trial roller for small 30x15mm glandes.

The idea is the sticky up tabs at the ends keep the thing centered while allowing you to slide it almost the entire length of the bed.
I figure stick a weighed lump in the middle and then roll back and forth with gentle presure till the edges meet.
Should give you perfect glande every time and be pretty quick.

It's a parametric script so i can generate any sized glande, Well within reason, I have to be able to print it Smiley
Just tell it the length and centre diameter and it generates everything else from those two measurements.


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Reply #18 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 4:16pm
 
I did make a glande press mould that had pointy ends, so if this works might do a pointy glande version as well.

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But press moulds are slow and a pita. Plus the central join isn't great. I figure the rollers should produce better glandes faster.
we'll see.

The only advantage I can see in the moulds is that you can add text:
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That said, I can produce printed text that you just press into the rolled glande. So no biggee.

pointy roller done.
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Reply #19 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:05pm
 
Wow. That's really cool CA.  I wonder if this would work for concrete?
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Reply #20 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:07pm
 
can't see why not.
You just need a fairly stiff mix. Minimal slumpage Smiley

test set nearly done.
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Reply #21 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:54pm
 
Well that works quite well. With these i didn't weigh, just guessed. Still quite quick.
Oh yeah i use play doh for testing Smiley
And the clay i had has gone hard anyway.
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Reply #22 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:46am
 
Awesome!
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Reply #23 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 6:19am
 
pointy script needs a couple tweaks and I think I have to calibrate my build plate. It's been about 6 months.
But other than that, good to go Smiley 
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Reply #24 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 8:01am
 
I can't believe how well that thing works.
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Reply #25 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 11:11am
 
have to admit, I was pleased.

just printing a small pointy slider.
Then I think I'll do a small sphere one (30mm anyway), just to have the whole set Smiley
Oh yeah need to add text to the things as well.


Then I'll do a little video and open up for orders Smiley

have to see about getting some clay as well. And write the text imprint script.

And print a bigger one and work out what they'll cost.

It's way faster than the press moulds and I think the result is better as well. I always found that removing the glabndes from the moulds stretched them out of shape. The rolled ones are all absolutely bang on.

Dunno why i didn't think of this years ago.  Think I'm coming up for 3 years with the 3d printer.
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Reply #26 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 5:50pm
 
I would buy one, that is freaking awesome
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Reply #27 - Apr 14th, 2017 at 6:39am
 
No point in the sphere roller. Almost as good and a lot quicker to do them by hand.
Oh and if you're making something that relies on smooth sliding - don't add protuding text to the sides whistle
yeah, not much joined up thinking going on last night.

once i've changed the text to voids rathet than sticky out bits - think we're pretty much done. Might make the guides bit thicker in the larger moulds. But that's pretty much it Smiley
might add handles, might not.
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Reply #28 - Apr 14th, 2017 at 12:18pm
 
Put me on the interested buyer list!
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Reply #29 - Apr 14th, 2017 at 1:41pm
 
Going to measure the clay glande uwe gave me a couple years back and make one that size tonight and see how big a roller would be for the monster glandes christian uses.

A sort of inadvertent bonus is that if you add extra clay you get a flattened glande. The motd clay the flatter it becomes, but keeps the shape. Dunno how useful that is, but it's a genuine undocumented user feature Smiley

You could also probably roll a couple at a time as i've made the roller a little longer.
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