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Prefered/best oz lead for slinging?
Feb 3rd, 2017 at 11:16pm
 
I have done some research and its seems most ancient lead bullets were a little over 1 oz. I think it was for aredynamics but if there's more to it please tell me. And has anyone done any reaseaech to find if bigger or smaller oz go further and/or have more power to bruise/penetrate (please specify which). Thanks!
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Reply #1 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 12:26pm
 
It's a mystery that no one can answer with 100% certainty without actually going back in time and asking them. My guess is that they had switched to our modern mindset that wounding in war is more effective than outright killing as it consumes more resources to deal with many wounded than many dead. Heavier lead projectiles would go further so there has to be more to it than distance. There is a thread on this subject on the forum if you are interested.
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Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 1:47pm
 
If you could link me to it that would be great. I have a hard time searching threads here for some reason.
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Reply #3 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 4:06pm
 
Would it come down to economics? I think 1 oz seems very light to sling anything but if you have to supply 1000 slingers with enough ammo I can see them taking a less is more attitude
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Reply #4 - Feb 5th, 2017 at 10:54am
 
Well, I would think smaller would mean less resistance (air and any material around the ammo) which would mean more penetration power since there is less surface area that it has to pass through. I've thrown 1 oz lead sinkers and they burry themselves very deep into the ground. I haven't thrown anything heavier though... just my hypothesis.
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Reply #5 - Feb 5th, 2017 at 10:57am
 
Next time I go somewhere that sells lead fishing sinkers cheap I'll try and get a few different ozs to test."
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Reply #6 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 8:33am
 
Since no one can answer all my questions with complete accuracy... Anyone have any more opinions, theories, or preferences partaining to lead sling ammo ozs?
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Reply #7 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:09am
 
I can't find the thread Drakolith. I think so long as the glandes are smooth and pointy even fairly large ones would easily penetrate the human body. 7-8 ounces is not too large. Maybe the 1 ounce glandes were harder to remove and therefore would be more likely to cause lead poisoning?  Wink Or just a shortage of lead? It could be any number of things really.
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Reply #8 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 3:48pm
 
Morphy wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:09am:
and therefore would be more likely to cause lead poisoning?

i think romans didn't know of lead poisoning ,
since they used it a lot as a sweetener
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Reply #9 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 4:08pm
 
I remember reading somewhere that they used lead pipes in Pompeii. So I don't think they did.
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Reply #10 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 6:37pm
 
Lol, true. I was only joking.
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Reply #11 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 10:47pm
 
i found if im not throwing something between 4 to 6 oz i dont get as much out of it that weight range is good for me i think the whole range seeking thing just depends on the strength of the slinger and the projectile that you need something with good shape and a comfortable weight
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Reply #12 - Feb 18th, 2017 at 7:55pm
 
Thearos would have more on the subject I believe but I think it was mostly economical related. 7 shots that are likely to penetrate and wound the enemy are better than 1 that just destroys a soldier.

Personally, as a modern day recreational slinger, I prefer 4oz. I've bought quite a few oval 4oz lead fishing weights and the flight was outstanding. They essentially shot like a laser out to 50 yards and then out of sight for distance throwing. If I were to make a mold today, I'd probably use 3.5-4oz
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Reply #13 - Feb 19th, 2017 at 6:45am
 
2 oz is about right.

Most ancent ones were between 30-80 grams.

It's the best compromise between damage inflicted and cost of individual ammunition.
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Reply #14 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:10pm
 
There is a histogram of weights in the Scientific American article by M. Korfmann in the 1970s, a translation of his thesis on Bow and Sling (in German). I seem to remember a cluster around 30 g, another cluster around 60 g, and a few outliers in the 120g range.

I have fitted ancient sling bullets, in the 30-35g range, in a little leather sling I happened to have with me. They feel great.
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