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Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Oct 30th, 2016 at 10:36am
 
a piece from the article: "two slingers revive ancient skill"
wednesday,april 19,1972
by George Ferguson

"You start the throw with an underhand motion,as one would throw a softball. You swing up and once around around your head then follow through as a baseball pitcher would throw"

so it may look like  byzantine style
or
my translation by being strict with the description:
the movement is like balearic at the start and continuous like a fig-8
or
upside down balearic (kind of...)

i tried it and its strange
it produces strange spin (i couldn't spot) on the stone and the plane of the throw is turned placing the stone towards the left for right handed slinger

so what is your translation of the description what style is it or what you think it looks like?
can you try it and spot the spin produced ?

below is the article i copied and scaned in the past i couldn't find the source page ,sorry for the bad quality

here http://paperlined.org/dev/oss/high_energy_slings/ you can see the range records since slinging.org is down...
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 2:37pm
 
interesting that it should be utah - that's where larry bray is from.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #2 - Oct 30th, 2016 at 5:05pm
 
If the pitcher is throwing overhand, i'd say helicopter. If he is thowing sidearm, balearic.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #3 - Nov 3rd, 2016 at 8:48pm
 
What if the throw starts going upwards, behind the head, and then comes forward and across the body diagonally? Almost like drawing an invisible x on your chest. This is the technique I use for stones golf ball sized and smaller. Byzantine is the closest example I can use to compare.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #4 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 5:32am
 
It sounds to me like he is talking about the fig-8.

When he says "you start the throw with an underhand motion, as one would throw a softball" what I think he is referring to is the backward motion, when you drop the pouch.



"You swing up and once around your head and follow through as a baseball pitcher would throw"

I could be wrong, but it makes the most sense.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #5 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 9:08am
 
@Mark-Harrop
but isn't the underhand softball the reverse?
if fig-8 is counter-clockwise at the start then i would say softball pitch is clockwise.

start from balearic position and 1 rotation and try to finish with the second half of fig-8 .
which takes 1.5-2.5 rotations to do.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #6 - Nov 4th, 2016 at 11:36am
 
It's the second half of fig 8,

So yeah, pretty much what's called byzantine. 

do it with an invisible sling.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #7 - Nov 6th, 2016 at 12:00pm
 
Sounds like Byzantine to me.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #8 - Nov 6th, 2016 at 5:10pm
 
Interesting - I have been working on a similar style. To me, a figure 8 is counter-inuitive b/c you cross-the midline when the sling is behind your back.  In the Vernon Morton style, it seems that you cross the mid-line when the sling is in front of you.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #9 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 2:13am
 
@Blue Raja what is the midline you are referring?
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #10 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 3:20am
 
@Parmenion - An imaginary line dividing the body into right and left halves.
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #11 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 4:48am
 
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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #12 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:28am
 
I think it's like this: https://youtu.be/WFsiRGghfI0

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Re: Vernon Morton slinging style(?)
Reply #13 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 8:55am
 
Depends what he means by softball pitch and around the head. Baseball pitch is pretty standard so the last motion of the throw seems obvious. 

Going strictly by what's said I'm envisioning a counter clockwise start up to about head level where the hand crosses over to be in place for the baseball pitch. Seems awkward though.
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