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Thearos Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Take that Posts: 3410	Sling (not slinger) on coins of Aspendos ? Mar 16^th, 2016 at 7:45am Mueller, Numismatique d'Alexandre le Grand, believes that the sling is represented on coins of Aspendos. https://archive.org/stream/numismatiquedal02mlgoog#page/n315/mode/2up http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015025917017;view=1up;seq=9
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Thearos Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Take that Posts: 3410	Re: Sling (not slinger) on coins of Aspendos ? Reply #1 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 2:43pm Here are two pictures, one from the Bibliothèque Nationale in Paris, one from the BM in London http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b85145454.r=aspendos http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collection_online/collection_object_detail... Does it look like a sling pouch ?
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Bill Skinner Forum Moderation Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3292	Re: Sling (not slinger) on coins of Aspendos ? Reply #2 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 6:15pm If you are speaking of the coins in the first link, #25 and 26 both look like slings.
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Thearos Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Take that Posts: 3410	Re: Sling (not slinger) on coins of Aspendos ? Reply #3 - Mar 16^th, 2016 at 7:49pm Would there be any practical advantage to such a butterfly shape to the pouch ?
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Alessandro Novicius Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 7	Re: Sling (not slinger) on coins of Aspendos ? Reply #4 - Apr 2^nd, 2016 at 9:08am I looks like an odd sling pouch. I havent seen one like it Good question Thearos.
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Re: Sling (not slinger) on coins of Aspendos ?
Reply #5 - Apr 4^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

Not slings - slings don't have a key or peg in one end.
could it be some kind of musical instrument ?
hurdy gurdy like with a handle at one end.

The butterfly image has rounded edges to indicate something with a three dimensional depth, definitely not a flat thing like a sling pouch.

But 20 is definitely a cannon and a bow of some kind.

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Reply #6 - Apr 4^th, 2016 at 8:19pm

20 is the club of Herakles.

I must admit doubt as to the "sling pouches", it's not the obvious answer. One reason people have proposed it is because Aspendos (the city which strikes these coins) sounds like "sphendone", the Greek for sling-- hence the tetradrachms with a slinger on them. Hence the hypothesis of a sling(pouch) on these coins.

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Reply #7 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 4:40am

what is 16 ,17,18?
19 is alexander the great
20 is a club looking like a canon to us. but what are the arms of hercules doing on a coin of alexander the great?
24 is like arabic to me. what is it?
25 looks like a musical instrument
26 what ACnEN means?
could it be a bag pipe of some kind?
aspendos doesn't sound like sphendone, also there is "a" a-spendos, if for example spendos meant something like slinger or sling then aspendos would probably mean "not a slinger "/"without a sling".but it sounds to me like a different meaning

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HuntsmanSling Funditor Offline Sling Maker Posts: 687 Vancouver, WA Gender:	Re: Sling (not slinger) on coins of Aspendos ? Reply #9 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:19pm I think the coins might be some sort of depiction of jewelry. Maybe fresh water pearl earrings or a brooch of some sort? Just a guess.
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Reply #10 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 7:00pm

So, here are some answers

16, 17, 18-- I think these are different representations of the "stylis", the naval ornament which appears in the hands of Nike on the obverse of Alexander's gold coinage.

20. Symbols of Herakles on the coinage of Alexander, because he is a descendant of Herakles (and hence the head is not a portrait of Alexander, but one of the hero).

24 is Aramaic, a Semitic language used in Western Asia, notably by the Persians for official use-- here on coins (I think these are satrapal coins from Kilikia).

25 Müller wonders: a shield ? an oar ? a sling pouch ?

26 ΑΣΠΕΝ | ΔΙΩΝ. The second letter is a lunate sigma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma#Lunate_sigma

27. Tetradrachms of Aspendos:
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/pamphylia/aspendos/i.html
--with the slinger, a play on the name of the city sounding a bit like sphendone.

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Reply #11 - Apr 6^th, 2016 at 2:06am

I really think 25 and 26 are most likely depicting some form of jewelry, and I really feel as CA said; they are not slings.

Curious Aardvark wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 1:40pm:

Not slings - slings don't have a key or peg in one end.

The hole and pegs in the 25-26 coins look exactly like a woman's earrings to me. I've lived with several over the years and their jewelry is thrashed all over.. that's where and how I know Wink

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