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International Competition Rules
Apr 19th, 2015 at 1:11pm
 
These are as simply as they can be and consist of target and distance.
For a competition to be an official part of the International federation Of Slingers. These simple rules need to be followed.

Target:
120cm square. With a central disc of 50 centimetres diameter.
The centre of the disc should be 160 cm above the ground.

Distances to compete over are: 10, 20 & 30 metres.
Points are awarded as follows:

10 & 20 metres: hitting the square is 1 point. Hitting the disc is 2 points.
Discretion is given to the referee on whether clipping the disc is 1 or 2 points.

For 30 Metres: Square scores 2 points and disc scores 4.

Ammunition is up to the organisers.
And all sling types and materials are allowed, as are any slinging styles.

Targets can be made of almost anything, just so long as the above criteria are met.

So for instance. You could hang a square of tarpaulin between two trees and cut a hole in the middle.
Anything from that on up to the threaded metal rod target ranges we made in wyoming (and are possibly still there) are viable.


The idea is to make this as accessible and open as possible while creating a coherent and consistent competition structure that can be used the world over.

These rules also need to be adhered to for any competition to qualify as Slinging.org sanctioned.

There will be approved indoor and outdoor ammo guides coming. These won't be compulsory - but preferred and safe recommendations.

If you want to submit an idea for ammo - it needs to be enviromentally friendly(ish). Must not richochet or shatter and should ideally be cheap to make from materials readily available the world over.   

A printable set of rules and  a score sheet are attached as an a4 pdf.
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Reply #1 - Jun 24th, 2020 at 3:40am
 
Can I get a confirmation on this:

"For 30 Metres: Square scores 2 points and disc scores 4"

Was told that points only double for disc score not square.
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Reply #2 - Jun 24th, 2020 at 8:07am
 
lol - this was before I knew that the ibizans actually sling at 30 metres.
I don't think anyone else does. But can't say for sure.

So depends whether you want to adhere to Ibizan federation rules - which has the same points at 20m and 30 m.

Or whether we want to use our own scoring system.

I will point out that there has NEVER been a 30 metre contest at the international in mallorca.
Despite my constant harangueing of pep to hold one. 
So there is no international set precedent.

No reason we can't have our own scores for 30 metres.

hang on I'll do a poll Smiley
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Reply #3 - Jun 24th, 2020 at 8:09am
 
It's a poll Smiley
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Reply #4 - Jun 24th, 2020 at 1:17pm
 
C_A,

Can you add a radio button? I would like the option to vote for 4 points on the circle and 1 on the square. Otherwise, there is little differentiation between 20 and 30 m. The same hit sequence would effectively be the same score (of course misses hurt more at 30 m).

4 on the circle awards accuracy more than consistency, which is sort of the name of the game. One well placed strike on the noggin' and a few misses would be more effective than a couple of strikes on the body.
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Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2020 at 7:19pm
 
Do different distances get scored against each other?  For example would a slinger's score for 10 m every be put up against another slinger's 20 m score?
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:30am
 
different distances are Not usually scored against each other- 10 metres is for kids and women as individuals.Though if children or women are in a team they all throw at 20 metres.

Spanish, machismo - nuff said Smiley

But in ibiza their regular weekly competitions are usually 5 shots at 20 metres and 5 shots at 30 and the combined score is taken for all 10 throws.
So in that case they are scored together.


try slinging at 30 metres - even hitting the quadro is bloody difficult.

And it does change the scores as most people will fail completely at 30 metres to hit anything.

I'll add your option but a 30 metre quadro is definitely worth 2 points Smiley
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 11:18am
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:30am:
try slinging at 30 metres - even hitting the quadro is bloody difficult.

And it does change the scores as most people will fail completely at 30 metres to hit anything.

I'll add your option but a 30 metre quadro is definitely worth 2 points


I did recently and I agree. The difficulty change from 20m to 30m is greater than the transition from 10m to 20m. My success rate hitting any part of the target was very low.  But I'm going to stubbornly remain with my earlier statement, 4 points and 1 point!
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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 2:40pm
 
I’ll throw this out just for kicks. If I could change one thing about the Balearic target it would be to add a center bullseye in the middle of the diana.

As our slingers get better and better, something we are seeing quite a bit these days, I think this might be the natural next step.  It also gives people something to aim at instead of a fairly large circle.

Anyways just a thought.
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 3:58pm
 
Morphy wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
I’ll throw this out just for kicks. If I could change one thing about the Balearic target it would be to add a center bullseye in the middle of the diana.

As our slingers get better and better, something we are seeing quite a bit these days, I think this might be the natural next step.  It also gives people something to aim at instead of a fairly large circle.

Anyways just a thought.



You are supposed to just make your own by hitting it there over and over Smiley
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 6:00pm
 
IronGoober wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 3:58pm:
Morphy wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
I’ll throw this out just for kicks. If I could change one thing about the Balearic target it would be to add a center bullseye in the middle of the diana.

As our slingers get better and better, something we are seeing quite a bit these days, I think this might be the natural next step.  It also gives people something to aim at instead of a fairly large circle.

Anyways just a thought.



You are supposed to just make your own by hitting it there over and over Smiley


In that case I hope you all brought some tents because we are going to be here awhile!
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Reply #11 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 8:38am
 
a smaller bullseye ?
hell no lol
I like hearing the clang too much Smiley

An inner circle would need to be made of wood so you could tell the difference - but even then it would still give you sympathy 'clang'.

Only way to do it would be to have a hole in the centre with a bag behind to catch anything going through.


So how wide are we going to make the 'jaegoor spot' ?
('cos he's the only person I know who could hit it consistently - or by anything other than pure accident whistle )
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Reply #12 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 10:05am
 
Curious Aardvark wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 8:38am:
So how wide are we going to make the 'jaegoor spot' ?
('cos he's the only person I know who could hit it consistently - or by anything other than pure accident whistle )


Sounds like a good name to me. Jaegoor spot is probably better than Jaegoor Hole. For...so many reasons.

Well see I think you are underestimating our wonderful slinging community my good man. Several of our slingers I bet could hit a...hmm 9 inch hole with some regularity from 20 meters. 20 meters is a huge difference than 30 or 40 meters. After you practice at those distances it feels super close.

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Reply #13 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 10:11am
 
Not sure what all this "circle" talk is about.  I usually aim for the square. Wink
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Reply #14 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 12:12pm
 
You guys are able to aim!? I just chuck it and pray Cheesy
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