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How not to throw a grenade
Mar 27th, 2015 at 2:30pm
 
There seem to be at least two videos of Chinese conscripts getting their grenade throws badly wrong. A recent one here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SUpJ2JuUAE

and an older one here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDpOawqg5i4

The instructors know how to react; they also are surprisingly cool with the conscript
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Reply #1 - Mar 27th, 2015 at 2:36pm
 
And another (from what seems to be a Chinese military news channel)

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/chinese-soldier-drops-a-grenade-instructor-save...

and another with a female soldier (who really doesn't throw well)

http://www.military.com/video/ammunition-and-explosives/grenades/female-soldier-...

and another one involving blast walls

http://www.break.com/video/chinese-soldier-grenade-throw-fail-1790923

and one where the conscript forgot to let the grenade go (and basically drops it next to his foot). The newsreader says that the delay at that point is 2 seconds

http://video.sina.com.cn/p/news/v/2014-02-25/081063551681.html

It looks like a sort of staple of chinese news. It also explains why the Chinese drill sergeants seem to know what they're doing. Man, I hate to think about what kind of accidents must happen in actual combat.
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Reply #2 - Mar 27th, 2015 at 3:06pm
 
This one is like the others but actually made me giggle

http://video.sina.com.cn/p/news/v/2014-03-20/200263642637.html

but it ends well: they started again, and the conscript, 5 min afterwards, got in a successful throw (and feels good about it).

I hope these have a reduced explosive charge (but doubt it). For sure, no frag sleeve.
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Reply #3 - Mar 28th, 2015 at 10:09am
 
I witnessed several grenade-related incidents when I was in the army.

In basic, one of the trainees had literally missed the classroom training as he was on KP.  So, he didn't know that the "new" grenades didn't smoke or make noise when the arming lever was lifted.
Waiting his turn to throw, he let the lever up, then pushed it back down.
Fortunately, the training NCO just caught the movement and grabbed the thing and tossed it over the edge of the barricade...

In Germany we were still training with the old WWII-vintage "Pineapple" grenade.
The range was pretty crude; a blown-up field and some bunkers made of railroad ties.
Everyone was supposed to duck completely behind the barricade at each throw, but the range officer wanted to watch.... I could see him with his head clearly visible in the port.
One guy had a rather short throw, and a piece of shrapnel blew splinters off the barricade, inches from the captain's face..... He remained out of sight for the rest of the day....

Finally, on the M79 grenade launcher range, the guys fired three rounds each, one kneeling behind a barricade.   One guy let the muzzle of the gun get below the barricade, and the grenade whacked it, spinning up into the air and then landing right in front of the trooper, the range officer, and a sergeant. 
Fortunately, it didn't arm.....      (They are supposed to travel 25 yards downrange before arming.)
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Reply #4 - Mar 28th, 2015 at 10:26am
 
I think it`s a bit horrible.  It might be covardly but they should probably practice with dummy`s before they use the live grenades  Smiley
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Reply #5 - Mar 28th, 2015 at 2:14pm
 
Could you imagine all the shenanigans that would occur if they had to learn how to figure8 sling the grenades?
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Reply #6 - Mar 28th, 2015 at 9:04pm
 
yeah... that would be hysterical! Grin
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Reply #7 - Mar 28th, 2015 at 9:22pm
 
I've watched more Chinese grenade vids. I think they do start with dummies, then a very elaborate drill by which the drillmaster actually actions the recruit's hand to throw a live grenade into a pit,, and finally the bit where the recruit is allowed to throw a live grenade on a range-- with the drillmaster by his side, and a good thing too
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Reply #8 - Mar 28th, 2015 at 9:31pm
 
I think this is yet another one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLOPH998WDE

and this one definitely is new

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynVwP6bEJjE

This shows the incident with the female soldier, but then gives a tour of a grenade training range. Interestingly, PLA "sandbags" seem to be recycled rice bags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j8pPWCxbhY

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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2015 at 8:47am
 
   Even though poor handling of a grenade shouldn't be funny, I have to admit that these vids made me laugh. 

Here's a vid I found that's kinda interesting.  Slings + Grenades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64NxTwg3Ujk
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Reply #10 - Apr 6th, 2015 at 5:09am
 
Like all weapons training, you start with dummies. You end with live firing by dummies.

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Reply #11 - Apr 6th, 2015 at 7:05am
 
yep. and Syrians are slinging homemade grenades with a burning fuse sticking out from them, through concrete walls , no problem.
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Reply #12 - Apr 10th, 2015 at 11:42am
 
You can have lots of excitement when throwing grenades, particularly if you have a bunch of people who are terrified of the grenade and don't have much of a sports background and don't really throw much.

The same stuff happens all over, I had several incidents when we threw live grenades.  And FWIW, when you issue ammo in real world, the poor throwers get grenades, they just pass them off to guys (or gals) that can throw.
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Reply #13 - Apr 10th, 2015 at 3:58pm
 
I prefer grenade launchers. (We used a single shot mortar launcher, but the idea is similar.)

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Reply #14 - Apr 11th, 2015 at 6:04pm
 
Masiakasaurus wrote on Apr 10th, 2015 at 3:58pm:
I prefer grenade launchers. (We used a single shot mortar launcher, but the idea is similar.)


I dont think those guys had any grenade launchers...  Oh wait...  They DO... hehehehehe
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