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so sounds Greek spin-lead
Nov 21st, 2014 at 5:49am
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4St2RFI0BM 

small Greek slingshot lead-fired with a short sling

sling 53 cm
weight of lead 34g
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Reply #1 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 6:36am
 
Wow. 25-30m target shoot ?
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Reply #2 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 8:14am
 
If you count his steps, it looks like about 12-15.  But it doesn't show where his camera was in relation to the target.
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Reply #3 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 8:22am
 
the camera was 2 m in front of the target.
I was 20 meters from the target.
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Reply #4 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 10:12am
 
That sounds very fast, and very deadly.
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Reply #5 - Nov 21st, 2014 at 10:47am
 
You could time the crack and the thud (I make it .3 sec, but obviously I must be a bit slow), to get a speed of 60ms/s or so, 216 kph. Which should be upped a bit to reflect the lag introduced by me while trying to chronometre this, so say 70m/s, 250 kph might be possible as the real speeds.

Interesting in terms of ancient skirmish line tactics. At this range (20m, point-blank), the whole range of missile weapons comes into play-- bow and arrow, big javelin, small javelin, hand-thrown stone, and even running human. Sling must be fastest of all, marginally faster than the arrow. I suppose I'm just saying that skirmishing did not need to take place at extreme ranges (say 200+m), or that long-range weapons could also hold their own even when javelineers, stone throwers or shielded light infantry got into danger-close range.
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Reply #6 - Nov 22nd, 2014 at 8:15am
 
What kind of target did you use to stop the lead glandes?  I tried a couple of chunks of old carpet that I found, the lead went through it pretty regularly.  That may have been because it was just old and rotten,  too.

I was only off by 3 meters?  I'm getting good at guessing ranges on YouTube.  Most are archery videos, some handguns.
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Reply #7 - Nov 22nd, 2014 at 8:22am
 
OK, more like 5.  Sorry.

Most people have a stride of about 2/3's of a meter or so, which is why I guesstimated 12-15 meters.

And sorry for not mentioning it sooner, that is a neat video.  Could you tell if they were tumbling end over or if they were spinning on their long axis?
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Reply #8 - Nov 22nd, 2014 at 10:45am
 
By the way, don't forget to wash your hands after handling lead.
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Reply #9 - Nov 22nd, 2014 at 5:54pm
 
Great!
I like this kind of videos!
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Reply #10 - Nov 22nd, 2014 at 7:32pm
 
Man! I've got to try shooting   lead myself!
As well, your technique looks so casual I love it!
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Reply #11 - Nov 23rd, 2014 at 6:17am
 
Yes, wash your hands. Lead-poisoning, and the depositing of lead in the brain, leads to impaired intellectual faculties and diminished self-control.
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Reply #12 - Nov 23rd, 2014 at 6:35am
 
And I was blaming that on a misspent youth and global warming...
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Reply #13 - Nov 23rd, 2014 at 6:37am
 
Impaired intellect and loss of self control? Sounds like booze he he recreational lead poisoning anyone?
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Reply #14 - Nov 23rd, 2014 at 11:54am
 
getting a real nice crack with the sling Thumbs Up
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