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Reply #30 - Jan 2nd, 2020 at 8:45pm
 
Homemade felt from thick tufts of animal hair-- wow ! And even made into a sling. So this IS an alternative to the vegetal fibres braided into long strands !!!
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Reply #31 - Jan 3rd, 2020 at 12:23pm
 
Hell, I might have to give this a go.

I've been meaning to do some felting for certain ancient/medieval hats, and if I ever get around to it I would certainly have off-cuts that would make a convenient sling pouch.
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Reply #32 - Jan 4th, 2020 at 1:29am
 
I assume felt is better than even braided wool, because it doesn't stretch = better preservation of energy
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Re: Vegetius (and Virgil) on sling material: linen or wool (wool best)
Reply #33 - Jan 9th, 2020 at 6:27am
 
My felt is elastic. Perhaps, there are different qualities. So, my feeling is a sensation of a soft throw. Pleasant.
Others tests are necessary. I'll spin wool, felt the strands and plait a "balearic" sling.
A long time !  Huh Huh
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Reply #34 - Jan 26th, 2020 at 10:29am
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF6CsoLVEoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Cf0QuYSsQ
Two links (part 1 and part 2) to spin wool. It's in french but the pictures are enough to understand. The music of middle-age is good. I'm sure you can find others sites with your language.
Actually, I spin wool and about 20 meters are probably necessary for my job.
This work is probably the "Well twisted wool" of Homère. Just my think !
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Reply #35 - Jan 30th, 2020 at 7:12pm
 
I have made a few wool slings from both twisted yarn, and felting yarn, and they work very well. However, there is one vital thing to bear in mind, which is that these slings are only good if they have been heavily stretched while they dry. I do this by soaking the finished sling in water, and then tie the release cord to a bucket full of heavy things, and lift the bucket and sling by the finger loop, which I slip over a hook on the garage ceiling.
The whole sling is then evenly stretched, and once dry, the wool sling has similar elasticity to rope (no perceivable stretch).
The heavier the weight used to stretch it, the less elastic it will be.
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Reply #36 - Jan 31st, 2020 at 2:21am
 
That's a good thing to know. I have been wanting to use wool but haven't known how to combat the elasticity.
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Re: Vegetius (and Virgil) on sling material: linen or wool (wool best)
Reply #37 - Jan 31st, 2020 at 7:05am
 
Thank you Lithera.
I'll do like you say.
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Reply #38 - Feb 3rd, 2020 at 6:22am
 
1) Wool of sheep 100% bio and nature  Embarrassed
2) After washed with cold water and carded with brushers for pets.  Smiley
3) Spinned with spindle like the links.

My german friend has the sheeps and she decides to make a great sweater with this method.  Smiley The weight of the sweater is about 2 kilos.
It's an interesting experience for her.
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Re: Vegetius (and Virgil) on sling material: linen or wool (wool best)
Reply #39 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 10:00am
 
my spinned wool is not very elastic but after I felt the braid, the wool is very elastic.
So, I will test the sling 2 times. Before I will stretch the sling and after to feel the difference.
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Reply #40 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 2:44pm
 
Sorry for my English. The good text is :

My spinned wool is not very elastic but after I felt the strands, the wool is very elastic.

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Reply #41 - Feb 19th, 2020 at 5:54am
 
Hello,
If you search : fulling on Wikipédia, you find an article about the treatment of wool in history.
To do my sling,I make strands with hot water and urine.
The video is to show the result with my wool.
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Re: Vegetius (and Virgil) on sling material: linen or wool (wool best)
Reply #42 - Feb 26th, 2020 at 8:21am
 
My sling is finished.
Like said Way Of The Sling ( not Lithera like I said before, with my excuses), I decided to stretch it 2 days with five kilos. Five kilos are not suffisant. I have a small elasticity still. I think ten kilos the next time.
My idea was that I needed six strands of three meters. My sling is too short. 1,04 meter.
My first test with it is ok. Next week, I will test on a beach to work the range.
probably,I will make another with correcting my errors.
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Re: Vegetius (and Virgil) on sling material: linen or wool (wool best)
Reply #43 - Mar 28th, 2020 at 12:31pm
 
Recently performed some more experiments with wool slings, and I found a way to make them work really well.
First, tightly braid a wool sling using yarn. (I like 2 ply twist as its fast and can be done tightly)
Once complete, stretch it in the way I described above.
The next step is to dip the whole thing into liquid beeswax, take it out, and rub off all of the excess beeswax with a glove. I then like to stretch it again before the beeswax cools so that the cooled beeswax prevents the wool from 'relaxing' back.
The resulting sling is very abrasive resistant, quite light, inelastic, flexible, comfortable, 'grippy' (no release knot needed), and its handling characteristics don't change even if dunked in water.
Wool is now my favourite sling material when made this way.
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Re: Vegetius (and Virgil) on sling material: linen or wool (wool best)
Reply #44 - Mar 29th, 2020 at 11:44am
 
Hello.
I am in late with my second sling.
I am interested by beeswax. Good idea. Thanks.  Smiley Smiley
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