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Nov 12th, 2013 at 6:47pm
 
Did the Cherokee peoples ever seriously use the sling? From what I've heard from others it was just a child's toy. I just don't think that it makes sense for all other indian nations to use the sling and the cherokees not ever using it. So did the cherokee indians ever use the sling as a weapon for hunting or war? Huh

When I talk about cherokees, I mean eastern woodland NC cherokees, not the texans

I'm sure the texan ones used them a lot in the desert considering the apaches and comanches ran around with em.
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Reply #1 - Nov 12th, 2013 at 8:38pm
 
Before the bow and arrow arrived, the sling was a companion weapon to the atlatl and dart.  It was probably used to hunt waterfowl and birds in a flock, such as passenger pigeons.  It was probably also used for small game hunting, how much is anybodys' guess. 

The problem is the slings were organic and most didn't survive, and the ammo was rocks or clay balls, even if the latter were found, there is no clue to what they were used for.
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Reply #2 - Nov 13th, 2013 at 6:16pm
 
That seems to make sense.

Though I wonder, if the guy writing about the apache style on this site's guise/how-to's page was telling the truth, then the apaches used the sling to hunt deer also. I wonder if other tribes, i.e. cherokee, did this too. Huh
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Reply #3 - Nov 16th, 2013 at 1:49pm
 
It is worth noting that the Cherokee and many other southeastern tribes had the rivercane blowgun for their small game hunting.
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Reply #4 - Nov 16th, 2013 at 4:54pm
 
yeah I know all about the blowgun. I'm actually pretty deadly accurate with mine. I could nail a squirrel-sized target form 40-50yds in practice. In hunting conditions however  30yds is pushing it.

Clotheshanger darts and aluminum tubing. Pool Noodle quiver and bare pipe (no mouthpiece). This is my setup
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Reply #5 - Dec 24th, 2013 at 1:49am
 
I just realized that I still have a blowgun lying around, as well as a squirrel and pigeon problem... >Cheesy
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Reply #6 - Dec 24th, 2013 at 10:56am
 
Magnesium-alumnium tubing man.
It doesn't bend easily, and its very springy, 1/8th inch thick walls, 1/2 diam... 5 feet long. weighs about 2-3 oz, never did weigh it. super-smooth bore. a little cotton with rouge on a dremel accomplished that Smiley
darts are usually skewers....
here is the thing- I suck with it. I used to be decent, but since I got braces...
got any advice on accuracy?
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Reply #7 - Dec 27th, 2013 at 10:47am
 
Do you know the technique of aiming it, or do you try shooting instinctively?

If you know how to aim it, it's just like a rifle, pretty hard to be bad with it.

Focus your eyes where you see two images of your blowgun and put your target in between them (or under for distance)
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Reply #8 - Dec 28th, 2013 at 3:03pm
 
TheSlingin-Injun wrote on Dec 27th, 2013 at 10:47am:
Do you know the technique of aiming it, or do you try shooting instinctively?

If you know how to aim it, it's just like a rifle, pretty hard to be bad with it.

Focus your eyes where you see two images of your blowgun and put your target in between them (or under for distance)

Never tried that one.
Always just kinda shot.
Now... I tried it, and it makes a pretty big difference.
Thanks!
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Reply #9 - Dec 31st, 2013 at 9:43am
 
The problem with the blowgun is that your mouth is not under your aiming eye.

That's easy to solve.

Just curve the mouthpiece end.  Now you can put sights on the tube.
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Reply #10 - Jan 3rd, 2014 at 4:46pm
 
timothy42b wrote on Dec 31st, 2013 at 9:43am:
The problem with the blowgun is that your mouth is not under your aiming eye.

That's easy to solve.

Just curve the mouthpiece end.  Now you can put sights on the tube. 


Intriguing Timothy... Have you tried this?
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Reply #11 - Jan 6th, 2014 at 11:06am
 
timothy42b wrote on Dec 31st, 2013 at 9:43am:
The problem with the blowgun is that your mouth is not under your aiming eye.

That's easy to solve.

Just curve the mouthpiece end.  Now you can put sights on the tube. 



You wouldn't be able to load it unless you dropped it down the front, which would require less airtight ammunition = less accuracy and power.
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Reply #12 - Jan 17th, 2014 at 1:13pm
 
That's easy.  Curved mouthpiece that fits over the tube.  It's not as if this were rapid fire.
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Reply #13 - Jan 17th, 2014 at 3:30pm
 
timothy42b wrote on Jan 17th, 2014 at 1:13pm:
That's easy.  Curved mouthpiece that fits over the tube.  It's not as if this were rapid fire. 

Also, even if the mouthpiece is curved, a fairly short and/or flexible dart works fine.
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Reply #14 - Jan 30th, 2014 at 3:45pm
 
From Cherokee to Blowgun, in three posts. A record has been set.
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