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Big blade v.2
Apr 3rd, 2013 at 9:20pm
 
So, after the catastrophe that was the Kukri Monster, I dug out a daintier leaf spring that I had lying around and decided to give it another go.  This time I'm building a kindjal.

Here is the leaf spring I started with.  Can you guess what I had originally planned for it? Tongue
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And here it is straightened and pointified with the handle roughed out
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I must say, working on 1/4" steel is much easier than working on the foot thick Kukri Monster.  Sorry about the odd picture format, I'm still figuring out photobucket.
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Reply #1 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:05pm
 
Why a Russian kindjal, out of curiosity? Any idea of the blade length?
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Reply #2 - Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:30pm
 
Masiakasaurus wrote on Apr 3rd, 2013 at 11:05pm:
Why a Russian kindjal, out of curiosity? Any idea of the blade length?


Blade's just a touch over 12".  Handle's 5.25" and it's almost 1.75" wide.
Kindjals and qamas aren't just from Russia, but that whole Eastern Europe/Caucasus area, even getting into parts of the middle east, such as Iran.  I'm a bit of a Middle-East-o-phile (anybody know the actual word for this? Like Anglophile or Hispanophile?), and I've wanted one of these ever since an Armenian tried to sell me one in Israel.  That and you know how you look at a piece of wood or metal and you know exactly what it's meant to be? That.

I plan on sharpening only one side (and a false edge near the tip on the reverse) to retain some utility.  I have some half-baked notion of using this as a "bush sword," like an overly sturdy machete. We'll see how that goes
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Reply #3 - Apr 4th, 2013 at 10:29pm
 
Is that a hole in the blade?
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Reply #4 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 5:19am
 
Bill Skinner wrote on Apr 4th, 2013 at 10:29pm:
Is that a hole in the blade?


Yes. The leaf spring's off a trailer so it isn't very big. That's just the hole that leaf springs have in their centers. Do you see any problems arising from it?
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Reply #5 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 10:14pm
 
Other than that I don't like holes in the blade of my knives, no, not really.  I just couldn't tell if it was a hole or if it was an effect of the hammering.
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Reply #6 - Apr 5th, 2013 at 11:56pm
 
Nice,mini gladius Smiley USE OIL ONLY FOR QUENCHING Smiley Also look for the edge to be cherry red,the rest will be about orange (edge cools quickly as you take it out)
Quench it vertically,otherwise it can kink,because of the uneven cooling in oil.
Try to heat it uniform as possible,if one side is not so hot,move it in the forge. Heat to orange ,then take it out and just watch the edge run down to cherry,then dip immediately vertically in oil. Tempering oil or used motor oil,should work,probably not so good.
After the quench,put it back in the forge,burn down oil,just until it burns down. Don't heat it too much ~200 C max.,then take it out,drop on the ground,(not concrete) soil,or dry sand,then let it cool slowly.
When it's cool,check with a file.If it barely sharpens it,almost slides on it,it's good.
That's all i know,you may want to read up further..
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Reply #7 - Apr 7th, 2013 at 7:50pm
 
jlasud wrote on Apr 5th, 2013 at 11:56pm:
Nice,mini gladius


Funny you should say that.  While I'm going to stick to traditional kindjal aesthetics for the weapon itself, I mean to draw inspiration for the scabbard from gladius scabbards.  I plan on suspending it on a shoulder strap rather than a belt loop like this guy's
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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2013 at 9:13pm
 
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TC, you may want to fill the hole by welding it with C40 steel. You could also repair your kukri in the same way  Smiley
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Reply #9 - Apr 8th, 2013 at 9:15pm
 
Yea good advice, although I think the hole will not structurally affect the blade.
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Reply #10 - Apr 9th, 2013 at 1:46am
 
Mauro Fiorentini wrote on Apr 8th, 2013 at 9:13pm:
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TC, you may want to fill the hole by welding it with C40 steel. You could also repair your kukri in the same way  Smiley
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How do you mean exactly? Are you talking oxy welding or stick?
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Reply #11 - Apr 9th, 2013 at 4:49am
 
Stick welding: it's just a matter of adding metal and filling these holes  Wink
Then you peck it, polish it, and it's done.
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Reply #12 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 5:40am
 
Or you could clean out that hole, countersink it and peen rivet in a bit of brass rod for some extra bling...A little spot of gold.


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Reply #13 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 6:56pm
 
Mick wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 5:40am:
Or you could clean out that hole, countersink it and peen rivet in a bit of brass rod for some extra bling...A little spot of gold.


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me thinks that would be ugly and cause problems when drawing and sheathing it.
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Reply #14 - Apr 11th, 2013 at 7:58pm
 
squirrelslinger wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 6:56pm:
Mick wrote on Apr 11th, 2013 at 5:40am:
Or you could clean out that hole, countersink it and peen rivet in a bit of brass rod for some extra bling...A little spot of gold.


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me thinks that would be ugly and cause problems when drawing and sheathing it.


If it was done by a pro, I could see it looking really good.  Maybe it could be carved into a flower or something (interesting how swords often have relatively effeminate decorations, yet nobody says anything).  I doubt my ability to pull off that particular feat however.

Updatewise, I've quenched the blade, no sign of cracks, and am waiting on the oven to heat up for tempering.
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