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squirrelslinger Interfector Viris Spurii Offline peace through superior firepower Posts: 2870 Ky, USA Gender:	Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch Reply #30 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:17pm Oh, and Walter, it is easier to just weave the pouch together at middle, Ill take pics and explain soon. -Squirrel PS- I AM SQUIRRELSLINGER, NOT SQUIRRELHUNTER(although I have hunted squirrel with broken glass )
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walter Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2453	Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch Reply #31 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 5:33pm S slinger, I've woven the ctr. Works good, but its not any easier. I called you S hunter? Sorry about that
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2811 Gender:	Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch Reply #32 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 6:36pm I like the Balearic Sling much. She is very stable when shooting. However, one must understand how they individually adjusted up. Is the " letter " is too large, we often lose because stone. Or to shoot a dirty style
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squirrelslinger Interfector Viris Spurii Offline peace through superior firepower Posts: 2870 Ky, USA Gender:	Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch Reply #33 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:28pm Dude, that thing is BEAUTIFUL!!!! I love it- Prettiest sling I have seen in a while. How do you get that braid? Anyway. Balarics are more picky...
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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Offline Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2811 Gender:	Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch Reply #34 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:46pm It is woven of linen. it is not made from raw fiber. The sling is made of max. 32 strings
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Mick Descens Offline May your stone always be well buried. Posts: 217 Brisbane/Redcliffe Gender:	Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch Reply #35 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 8:41pm Damn I want one...I'm gonna make one! 32 strings huh?! Might need to work up to it, after I let my fingers heal from the six strand I just made out of sisal rope. (pulled a rope apart to get the cordage) Mick
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Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch
Reply #36 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 1:27pm

Jaegoor wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

It is woven of linen. it is not made from raw fiber. The sling is made of max. 32 strings

How does a linen Balearic sling hold up to wear and tear compared to a sisal?
I've been wanting to try linen out for a while now, but I want to know if it's worth the shipping expenses Wink

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Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch
Reply #37 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 3:41pm

Donnerschlag wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 1:27pm:

Jaegoor wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

It is woven of linen. it is not made from raw fiber. The sling is made of max. 32 strings

How does a linen Balearic sling hold up to wear and tear compared to a sisal?
I've been wanting to try linen out for a while now, but I want to know if it's worth the shipping expenses Wink

I know the question, is directed towards Jaegoor, but I would think linen would wear a lot better than sisal. Linen is what a lot of guys use for their warbow strings (super strong bows with draw weights up to 150lbs) because its so tough and strong, but most bowyers wouldn't even think about using sisal for anything but super light weight (15lbs -) bows.

So using the bow string reasoning, its probably much better, but I have yet to actually try it.

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I was pretty good at slinging like 10 years ago.

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Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch
Reply #38 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 4:11pm

Dan wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 3:41pm:

Donnerschlag wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 1:27pm:

Jaegoor wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:46pm:

It is woven of linen. it is not made from raw fiber. The sling is made of max. 32 strings

How does a linen Balearic sling hold up to wear and tear compared to a sisal?
I've been wanting to try linen out for a while now, but I want to know if it's worth the shipping expenses Wink

I know the question, is directed towards Jaegoor, but I would think linen would wear a lot better than sisal. Linen is what a lot of guys use for their warbow strings (super strong bows with draw weights up to 150lbs) because its so tough and strong, but most bowyers wouldn't even think about using sisal for anything but super light weight (15lbs -) bows.

So using the bow string reasoning, its probably much better, but I have yet to actually try it.

Then again, tensile strength is different then resilience to abrasion. Otherwise paracord would be the de-facto God of all sling materials Wink

I see your point though. And I like it when people address questions like this, regardless of if it was directed at them or not. Either way, I get my answer. Haha

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Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch
Reply #40 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 5:19pm

jlasud wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Yep.
If one cord of a sling can hold ~ 20pounds,it's plenty enough. Friction is what's killing our slings.

If you wrap it in leather, it lasts forever. ok, maybe not forever. but Close!
I like the style a lot. And Donner, making slings from sisal is easy if you have thick skin. it is my main material. Jute is used for slings that I might end up giving away or trading because many people do not like sisal.

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Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch
Reply #41 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 5:31pm

squirrelslinger wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 5:19pm:

jlasud wrote on Feb 21^st, 2013 at 4:57pm:

Yep.
If one cord of a sling can hold ~ 20pounds,it's plenty enough. Friction is what's killing our slings.

If you wrap it in leather, it lasts forever. ok, maybe not forever. but Close!
I like the style a lot. And Donner, making slings from sisal is easy if you have thick skin. it is my main material. Jute is used for slings that I might end up giving away or trading because many people do not like sisal.

I've no problem working with sisal, especially when I work with it wet. (Once it's broken in, a densely-braided sisal sling is surprisingly slinky. Wink

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I really love the feel of broken-in hemp, but not only is the smell... funky, but the release cord often disintegrates quickly until it's too short to use. Tongue

For now I just use nylon mason's twine for my workhorse sling/s; doesn't smell, is pretty durable, and never had a disintegration problem with it.

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Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch
Reply #42 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 7:23pm

So Ive taken all of your guys advice and tried something different. First of all thank everyone for your comment and input. The wealth of knowledge and experience you guys have given is invaluable!

So I figured a giant tut has its advantage by being totally encompassing the rock with full support. However I like the versatility of the balearic pouch for holding different sizes of rocks. So I tried to achieve the qualities of both of the balearic and tut pouches. This is what I came up with based on the link okieslinger posted of a local artisan in the Balearic Islands.

Tell me what you guys think. About to test it out so ill reply back with feedback on how it performed.

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Donnerschlag Interfector Viris Spurii Offline I put the 'K' in "Kwality"! Posts: 1045 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: Tut Sling Pouch vs Balearic Pouch Reply #43 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 8:40pm Wow! First time I've seen a Rockman and an Etruscan combined! It came out very, very well. Daddy like
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Reply #44 - Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 4:16am

@ Teg: Thanks for your advices. You made a really systematic error-searching list. Great work!
      I agree that split pouches throw faster and more "aggressive" than solid ones.
      In fact I prefer the split pouches, too, especially the peruvian style and rockman slings.
      When I wrote that I prefer the Tut over balearic slings I refered only to this two kinds of slings.
      My "problem" occurs only with the balearics I made. Maybe some leather attachment would make the
      split pouch a bit stiffer and less "round and twisty", cause I think that is the error. The size of the gap
      determines the ammo size, but as I tried every size of rocks, I could exclude this as a reason of my
      mistakes. Also if still not perfect in technique (I´m far away from being a professional slinger) I don`t
      loose stones due to edgy movement e.g. with flat leather pouches, that tend to sideways slipout of
      ammo.

@ sqirrelslinger: When I wrote about big stones I ment tennis ball up to 2 tennis ball size. They need quite a
lot of power to be thrown. I red the article in the advices and how to`s section of this page
and how somebody killed a cow with a honda manchega. So I wanted to try it (not to kill a
cow, but to sling the big stones).

@ walter: I tried the sewing method once with a jute over sisal rockman, cause the stones slipped out, but it
   didn`t help. I have another rockman with a big gap, that never lost a stone, also it was small enough
   to slip through, and it`s very soft / flexible. But you´re right, the sewing can help a lot when you
   make the split too long. I made that several times with my earlier peruvians.

Again thanks a lot to all of you guys. It`s great how everyone here helps with experiences, ideas and advices.
After reading all this I really have to give the balearic slings another chance.

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