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Historically accurate slings?
Aug 3rd, 2012 at 10:43am
 
I have just acquired a flock of navajo churro sheep and one llama. Along with the sheep I got some of the wool from the last sheering. I do some spinning, weaving and crocheting, and I have a deerskin ready to be brain tanned. I really want to make an historically accurate sling from these materials. Any suggestions? I've been assuming that because the apaches raided the navajo routinely and used slings that I could just follow the directions in the article on traditional apache slings using wool and buckskin and end up with something accurate, but thought I'd float this and see if someone could point me towards some additional info. Also, I may have access to yak wool, cashmere (goats), angora (rabbits) and a host of north american plant fibers (nettle, milkweed, flax and others). I have the skills and tools (primitive and historically accurate) to process all of these things, and want to get started soon. I hope to post pics of some reproduction slings here as they are done, but maybe there is a more appropriate thread for that?
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Reply #1 - Aug 3rd, 2012 at 11:27am
 
Yes you are in a the right section and once you make those slings post em on the trading post I would trade stuff for one
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Reply #2 - Aug 3rd, 2012 at 6:56pm
 
@sasquatchslinger- I noticed you do blacksmithing- yeah we can definitely trade!
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Reply #3 - Aug 3rd, 2012 at 7:41pm
 
Lol yeah just started great fun though have a forge in town I'm trying to get apprenticeship at but don't have a forge of my own but my friend does so forge when I'm over his house still interested in the bracelet for the leather much better quality right know been blacksmith for a two months
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Reply #4 - Aug 3rd, 2012 at 9:57pm
 
The apache sling is not the best for making with wool. Spun wool is very stretchy, it really needs a more complex braid than the 3 strand braid shown in that tutorial. You'll need to learn something like these if you want a useable wool sling: http://backstrapweaving.wordpress.com/tutorials/tutorial-palma-and-margarita-bra...
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Reply #5 - Aug 3rd, 2012 at 11:53pm
 
@masiakasaurus- thanks. bookmarked the link and will learn the braid ( always happy to find something new to learn- double thanks). Had some other ideas for reducing the stretchiness, too. Maybe combined with a good braid to be sure. Would it be an inca sling, then? Maybe I should use dogbane for the apache sling?
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Reply #6 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:27am
 
Does someone made a comparison about thickness between the two braids(margarita and palma) ?
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Reply #7 - Aug 7th, 2012 at 2:43pm
 
Dilyan Ganev wrote on Aug 7th, 2012 at 10:27am:
Does someone made a comparison about thickness between the two braids(margarita and palma) ?

Those two braids seem to end up equally thick. 
I`d suggest you first learn peruvian 16-strand braid.  It is easier to handle 24 strands when you has gotten used to 16 strands.  By the way it end up a little thinner, maybe 5 millimeters, while my latest 24-stranders end up just over 6 millimeters.
http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/othercrafts/peruvianbraid.html

My first "multi-strand" braided slings ended up pretty thick and soft. After lots of practice they end up thinner and harder.

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Reply #8 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:31am
 
I got the hang of palma braid due to the somewhat understandable step by step videos, but the explanations for the 16 string got me confused....
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Reply #9 - Aug 8th, 2012 at 10:46am
 
Dilyan Ganev wrote on Aug 8th, 2012 at 7:31am:
I got the hang of palma braid due to the somewhat understandable step by step videos, but the explanations for the 16 string got me confused....

Hey, how can that be confusing? Cheesy
The 16 strand and 24 strand braids is basically done the same way, if you can do the palma braid you`ll sure get the hang of the 16 strand braid as well.
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Reply #10 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:20am
 
Ive just learned loads from this thread, thx all.

I now have the tutorials to learn these complex braids, but how do I make the elongated flat pouches associated with these Andean slings, like for example this one,

http://perso.wanadoo.es/hondero/sling13.htm

when ive braided to the pouch what next in other words?
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Reply #11 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:50am
 
I work on this pattern just. it is for new sling. the material is silk
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