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Reply #15 - Aug 27th, 2012 at 12:14pm
 
ChuckRocks wrote on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 4:18pm:
Fascinating Subject.
Non-evidential subjectionism is always fun as long as everyone gets to play and no one gets his eye shot out.

First; I am not a scholar of African or Colonial America Slings.
I can only suppose that if I were a slave and had the knowledge of sling warfare I would have made use of it; I would have not submitted to be taken into slavery. Furthermore, I would have led a slinged rebellion.

Many slaves became so by becoming prisoners of war - so they were originally soldiers in their own area.

That meant escaped slaves were a known danger, as they were essentially trained warriors.  All of the early extractive colonies had huge problems with this.
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Reply #16 - Aug 27th, 2012 at 8:25pm
 
timothy42b wrote on Aug 27th, 2012 at 12:14pm:
ChuckRocks wrote on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 4:18pm:
Fascinating Subject.
Non-evidential subjectionism is always fun as long as everyone gets to play and no one gets his eye shot out.

First; I am not a scholar of African or Colonial America Slings.
I can only suppose that if I were a slave and had the knowledge of sling warfare I would have made use of it; I would have not submitted to be taken into slavery. Furthermore, I would have led a slinged rebellion.

Many slaves became so by becoming prisoners of war - so they were originally soldiers in their own area.

That meant escaped slaves were a known danger, as they were essentially trained warriors.  All of the early extractive colonies had huge problems with this.  





Escaped slaves were delt with very harshly, usually involving maiming or crippling to some extent. Slave revolts, of which there were several during colonial times, were brutally crushed. If a slave was lucky the best he could hope for was to escape to some Indian village where hopefully he/she would be taken in.
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Reply #17 - Sep 12th, 2012 at 10:24pm
 
This is why you ask the Colonial History Museum Man. This is really simple, in all reality.
http://books.google.com/books?id=E83tF_SwUZQC&pg=PA239&dq=Slinging+stones&hl=en&...

Slinging was exercise and sport in colonial America. Its use also shows up in many kid's books in the 1830s and 1840s as a good amusement, as do Bolas.  They were known, they were used, but not as weapons.  Kids also used them for pest control by hitting groundhogs, birds and such with them, from what we can tell.
http://books.google.com/books?id=gecIAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA11-PT554&dq=Slinging+stones&h...
They were also a child's preferred weapon against passenger pigeons.
They were considered for use by Grenadiers for getting further range on Grenades.
http://books.google.com/books?id=RONZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219&dq=Sling&hl=en&ei=T5fhTry...

Any Other Questions I can weigh in on?  I use one occasionally for Museum Ed purposes for 18th and 19th Century Activities and skills.
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Reply #18 - Sep 16th, 2012 at 8:59pm
 
There is no documentation of slings being used by colonists or any Europeans in Colonial Times. As I said, it doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that nobody wrote about it.
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Reply #19 - Sep 18th, 2012 at 9:11pm
 
very good point. nobody noted a large tunnel under my street either. nor the creek that runs past my house in a wooded area.
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Reply #20 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 10:41am
 
bigkahuna wrote on Aug 27th, 2012 at 8:25pm:
timothy42b wrote on Aug 27th, 2012 at 12:14pm:
ChuckRocks wrote on Aug 22nd, 2012 at 4:18pm:
Fascinating Subject.
Non-evidential subjectionism is always fun as long as everyone gets to play and no one gets his eye shot out.

First; I am not a scholar of African or Colonial America Slings.
I can only suppose that if I were a slave and had the knowledge of sling warfare I would have made use of it; I would have not submitted to be taken into slavery. Furthermore, I would have led a slinged rebellion.

Many slaves became so by becoming prisoners of war - so they were originally soldiers in their own area.

That meant escaped slaves were a known danger, as they were essentially trained warriors.  All of the early extractive colonies had huge problems with this.  





Escaped slaves were delt with very harshly, usually involving maiming or crippling to some extent. Slave revolts, of which there were several during colonial times, were brutally crushed. If a slave was lucky the best he could hope for was to escape to some Indian village where hopefully he/she would be taken in.


Your information is incomplete.  In many extractive colonies escaped slaves mixed with the remnants of the native populations that sruvived the old world diseases and formed a significant percentage of the population.  On some islands escaped slaves essentially became the population. 
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Reply #21 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 9:57pm
 
We were discussing colonial America.
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Reply #22 - Oct 1st, 2012 at 1:12pm
 
bigkahuna wrote on Sep 19th, 2012 at 9:57pm:
We were discussing colonial America.


So was I.

Colonial America was not white, despite what many of our history books may seem to depict.

Until 1840, by immigration records and ship's logs, 3 of 4 colonists were black.  Further south some of the colonies were close to 25 to 1.
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Reply #23 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 10:06pm
 
So what does ethnic population makeup in the American Colonies have to do with slinging?? Huh
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Reply #24 - Nov 5th, 2012 at 10:08pm
 
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very good point. nobody noted a large tunnel under my street either. nor the creek that runs past my house in a wooded area.


If nobody wrote about it then nobody in the rest of the world would ever know it was there.
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Reply #25 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 3:27am
 
Perhaps they were so ubiquitous as to be non-noteworthy.

Seems they were outlawed in urban areas shortly after someone got their eye shot out.


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Reply #26 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 6:39am
 


Seems us rowdy Colonials were slinging horseshit at the British…

http://books.google.ae/books?id=ohV_-4GJaU0C&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=slinging+in+col...

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Reply #27 - Nov 24th, 2014 at 9:28am
 
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With later place names like Palmyra Indiana and Carthage Illinois etc this tells me that at least after Independence and probably before also there were quite a few settlers who came from outside Europe, in particular the middle east and North Africa.  Given the strong slinging traditions there until very recently perhaps they brought slings with them?

So I suppose then there is a chance that during the Colonial period peoples from French and British territories elsewhere may have arrived in North America? Maybe with slings?


I don't think the name of towns can be used as evidence for where the early settlers came from.  I think those names were known to Euro-American settlers because they appeared in the Bible and other ancient histories.  There are not many American towns named after North African or Middle Eastern cities that are less than 2000 years old.  While there are lots of American towns with names like "Shiloh", which are not significant in the old world except that they are referred to in the Bible. 
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Reply #28 - Nov 25th, 2014 at 10:35am
 
Woodssj's post is pretty amazing-- period sources mentioning slinging as a normal pastime in Colonial America !!
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Reply #29 - Dec 5th, 2014 at 3:04pm
 
The industrialisation of rubber did to the sling what the cassette did to the 8-track.
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