Welcome, Guest. Please Login
SLINGING.ORG
 
Home Help Search Login


Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
Slinging in Colonial America (Read 8733 times)
rudyb
Novicius
*
Offline


Slinging Rocks!

Posts: 2
Slinging in Colonial America
Aug 1st, 2012 at 12:42pm
 
I am looking for sources that can document the use of slings in Colonial America by the colonists.  Has anyone found any information on this? Undecided
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
bigkahuna
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3894
Delaware, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #1 - Aug 1st, 2012 at 8:33pm
 
In all my info on colonial America there is no reference to colonists slinging. Doesn't mean they didn't do it. Just nobody wrote about it. Sad
Back to top
 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
John Walker  
IP Logged
 
rudyb
Novicius
*
Offline


Slinging Rocks!

Posts: 2
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2012 at 7:07pm
 
I know that slings were still being used in medieval Europe into the 16th century, plus the early colonists were all aware of the bible story of David and Goliath, which tells me that they were at least aware of what a sling was.  I've also found references to Abenaki use of slings in hunting, and those were the people in the area that is now NH and ME.  So I feel that there is a high probability that the colonists, in particular the children, may have used slings both as toys and for hunting.  But, as yet, I've found nothing written about it.

Rudy
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
bigkahuna
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3894
Delaware, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #3 - Aug 3rd, 2012 at 9:25pm
 
Slings were in use by many tribes throughout the Americas. I don't think it ever caught on with the colonists though.
Back to top
 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
John Walker  
IP Logged
 
Lugh-Lamhfada
Senior Member
****
Offline


A slinger is only as good
as his last stone

Posts: 272
An Mhi, Ireland
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #4 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 8:03am
 
With later place names like Palmyra Indiana and Carthage Illinois etc this tells me that at least after Independence and probably before also there were quite a few settlers who came from outside Europe, in particular the middle east and North Africa.  Given the strong slinging traditions there until very recently perhaps they brought slings with them?

So I suppose then there is a chance that during the Colonial period peoples from French and British territories elsewhere may have arrived in North America? Maybe with slings?
Back to top
 

"Andraste Basbochorbhan"- Andraste brings death to the wicked
 
IP Logged
 
bigkahuna
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3894
Delaware, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #5 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:04pm
 
By the time of the American Colonial Era none of the peoples coming from Europe still maintained a strong slinging tradition. Certainly not the British or French.
Back to top
 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
John Walker  
IP Logged
 
Lugh-Lamhfada
Senior Member
****
Offline


A slinger is only as good
as his last stone

Posts: 272
An Mhi, Ireland
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #6 - Aug 16th, 2012 at 3:53pm
 
I meant their subject peoples. North Africans etc. Just a thought.
Back to top
 

"Andraste Basbochorbhan"- Andraste brings death to the wicked
 
IP Logged
 
bigkahuna
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3894
Delaware, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #7 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 9:07pm
 
Some of the Africans brought to this country as slaves probably had some knowledge of slings and slinging. I doubt if it was passed on as most things African were severely discouraged by the new owners.
Back to top
 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
John Walker  
IP Logged
 
Mauro Fiorentini
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline


Forge your future with
the hammer of your mind!

Posts: 3442
Ancona, Italy.
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #8 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 10:04pm
 
rudyb wrote on Aug 2nd, 2012 at 7:07pm:
the early colonists were all aware of the bible story of David and Goliath, which tells me that they were at least aware of what a sling was.


I have to disagree on this Sir.
We all are aware of the bible story of the Conception, but we don't really become aware of it until it's too late  Grin
By the way, welcome to the forum! Why don't you present yourself properly?
And about your question, I second bigkahuna, for it doesn't seem there're enough evidences for slinging in colonial America (not yet).
Greetings,
Mauro.
Back to top
 

Like! Smiley https://www.facebook.com/Arte-Picena-238289793027749/timeline/
Greetings,
Mauro.

Mauro Fiorentini - 339-525
 
IP Logged
 
bigkahuna
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3894
Delaware, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #9 - Aug 19th, 2012 at 9:45pm
 
Most of the Native American groups that had a history of sling use soon gave them up when they realized the advantage of firearms. Same for the bow and arrow.
Back to top
 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
John Walker  
IP Logged
 
timothy42b
Junior Member
**
Offline



Posts: 65
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #10 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 1:26pm
 
bigkahuna wrote on Aug 18th, 2012 at 9:07pm:
Some of the Africans brought to this country as slaves probably had some knowledge of slings and slinging. I doubt if it was passed on as most things African were severely discouraged by the new owners.


Until 1840 the US had 3 African American immigrants for every 1 European.  Most of these would have been from West Africa.  Is there a tradition of African slinging?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
bigkahuna
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3894
Delaware, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #11 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 9:27pm
 
The use of the sling was wide spread throughout Africa. There is, so far, no documentation that any of the African people brought here continued the use of the sling. The only well documented craft brought from Africa was the making of baskets by the Gullah people of South Carolina, who still make the same kind of baskets today as their African ancestors did.
Back to top
 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
John Walker  
IP Logged
 
Pikåru
Interfector Viris Spurii
*****
Offline


Experience teaches only
the teachable...

Posts: 1636
Colorado USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #12 - Aug 21st, 2012 at 11:48am
 
There's an often forgotten colonial frontier in the United States that was never taught when I was in school. I don't know whether it's more than a footnote these days but there was the Spanish colonial frontier in the southwest and central US. The Spanish had established settlements and a capital in northern New Mexico as early as 1598. 
My father talks about his great-grandfather using a sling. Now whether slinging came over from Europe with these pioneers or whether it was picked up from the natives here I am not qualified to answer.
It's not a solid lead, like a book reference but it's an area to look into.
The Spanish kept good records, the Church kept good records too.
In a related topic some of the best pre-contact historical records for the Marianas came from Jesuit priests.
Back to top
 

I sling. Therefore I am. Tano' Hu I Islan Guahan. http://itanohu.blogspot.com
 
IP Logged
 
ChuckRocks
Senior Member
****
Offline


Leverage Artillery Design
Engineer

Posts: 292
The Florida Outback, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #13 - Aug 22nd, 2012 at 4:18pm
 
Fascinating Subject.
Non-evidential subjectionism is always fun as long as everyone gets to play and no one gets his eye shot out.

First; I am not a scholar of African or Colonial America Slings.
I can only suppose that if I were a slave and had the knowledge of sling warfare I would have made use of it; I would have not submitted to be taken into slavery. Furthermore, I would have led a slinged rebellion. Armed peoples are called citizens.
BUT, not seeing any evidence of slingging by slaves I can only draw the conclusion that they didn't have that knowledge.
And as a side note, my friends serving as missionarys in Coast d'Ivory have not seen any sling activity.

But what about schoolboys in Boston?
The Boston Massacre is said to have come about from schoolboys throwing snowballs (laced with rocks) at the Red Coats and got shot in return. Never bring a snowball to a gun fight.
I am sure these boys had the lesson of David and Goliath in their Sunday School class. (Yes, they had those then.)
And being all American red-blooded boys, they would have re-invented the sling based on their teacher's lessons.
If therefore, they had access to a servicable sling, why screw around with snowballs when provoking the British?

Can we suppose that the slings they used were servicable?
Or should we presume that these supposed boys had no real understanding of the awesomeness of our mutual love, the sling?
I propose the latter; they didn't know how to make good slings for beaning the Brits in Beantown.

I do not know of any slinging in Colonial America
Back to top
 

(AKA Walker / Visit my Facebook page: at http://www.facebook.com/pages/SiegeMasters/168138883205859 )
WWW  
IP Logged
 
bigkahuna
Slinging.org Moderator
*****
Offline



Posts: 3894
Delaware, USA
Gender: male
Re: Slinging in Colonial America
Reply #14 - Aug 22nd, 2012 at 9:21pm
 
Unfortunately, none of the documentation on the "Boston Massacre" says anything about slings, and none of the contemporary drawings or engravings of the incident show slings, which I think would have figured prominently.
Back to top
 

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
John Walker  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
(Moderators: David Morningstar, Mauro Fiorentini, Chris, Curious Aardvark, Bill Skinner, Masiakasaurus, Rat Man) - (Moderator Group: Forum Moderator)