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Hello from Ireland
Jul 20th, 2012, 8:40am
 
Dia Dhuit all, im from Meath Ireland.
 
Ive been slinging for nearly six months now but ive had a fascination with history since I was a kid so when I came across this site it allowed me to make and use a weapon I had read about for years and that was used in Ireland and all over the world. I will post pics of my slings soon.
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Reply #1 - Jul 20th, 2012, 10:30am
 
Welcome Lugh!
I'm glad this site helped you, and I'm sure you'll feel comfortable with our forumers here  Smiley
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Reply #2 - Jul 20th, 2012, 10:43am
 
Looking forward to seeing your slings. Welcome aboard.
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Reply #3 - Jul 20th, 2012, 4:58pm
 
Being from Ireland, is there much talk of the use of slings by warriors of old? I have found little online aside from a few references in lore.
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Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2012, 5:54pm
 
There is little or no knowledge of the sling in Ireland. Most people think its a "slingshot"!
 
I have to hide my sling until I hit the beach and even there I pocket it when people walk by. There is an army shooting range just off the beach where I tend to go. People seem accepting of that, viewing it I assume as someone hitting targets as opposed to someone "up to no good"!
 
I think somehow people view it in light of youths in Northern Ireland who throw(rather than sling) stones and bricks and see anything similar as suspicious. Given that in mythological cycles Lugh was supposed to have said that the sling was just as worthy a weapon for a man as a sword or spear. This must be the only cultural reference elevating the sling to a higher status than poor mans or auxiliary status. The only person I know who even knew what a sling was is my friend whos not even Irish but Palestinian, and even in Palestine its a dying art the preserve of youths and bedouin herders.
 
So all in all a bad indictment of the sling in Ireland, something that will have to change!
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Reply #5 - Jul 21st, 2012, 9:39am
 
My first real intro into the lethal aspect of a sling was when I read Red Branch and how CuChulain disables a fellow Red Branch's chariot with a well placed sling of a brain ball and later that day dispatched three brothers with the same sling. (much better story than David's IMO)
 
Aside from that and the tale of Conchobar Mac Nessa's death I have not come across anything else. I was looking, also, into the creation of brain balls and the use of lime but that was far less fruitful.
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Reply #6 - Jul 21st, 2012, 10:19am
 
Top of the morning to you! And Welcome.
 
Slinging is a great hobby, stick to it!
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Reply #7 - Jul 21st, 2012, 11:22am
 
Haha! the only place Ive ever heard top of the mornin is on american t.v, think you guys invented that one! But thanks, im definitely hooked on slinging for life.
 
I think the brain balls you are referring to Torc are actually calcified heads rather than brains. I know in Iron age Britian calcified heads were thrown by hand as a projectile weapon and in Ireland calcified heads were common. Not sure how they are made, probably just by sticking a severed head into a lime pit and leaving them to shrink and harden. There are references to slings, but these and everything relating to pre Christian era were written down much later as writing was not introduced until at least the 3rd century A.D so most mythological cycles and accounts are written by Christian scholars in the early middle ages and to be honest most of it is embellished, mistranslated or just made up.
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Reply #8 - Jul 24th, 2012, 3:55pm
 
brain balls new to me.  
 
So a shrunken (though not by much if the skull is not removed) calcified head.  
 
Not a lime pit - that's a different process entirely. what we're talking about would be lime stone. there is aplace in yorkshire - mother shiptons well. where you can place objects in very hard (mineral bearing) water. and over time they are coated in deposited limestone.  
 
But a full sized human head, with a stone coating would be too large for a hand sling.  
Not to mention much too heavy.
 
So maybe they removed the skull ?  
 
It all seems a weird way to get sling ammo.  Perhaps a brain ball was simply another name for a shaped stone missile ?  
 
 
If you look round the forum there is afair bit of discussion about slings found as grave goods in ireland and a barrow where a lot of slingstones were found. Someone will know the details - after 7 years I just try and remember that these threads exist rather than any fine detail Smiley
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Reply #9 - Jul 28th, 2012, 7:24am
 
Hello, Lugh-Lamhfada;
   Welcome.  It's great to have you aboard.
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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2012, 10:03am
 
In that time the Irish took heads for tropheys and they were proccessed so keep them from rotting and were displayed in a hut. The brains were removed and mixed with lime to create the ball used for the warriors slings. It imagine there was a mystical spin to the creation as well as uniformity.
 
http://archive.org/stream/cuchulainofmuirt00gregrich#page/84/mode/2up/search/sli ng Has references to the use of slings.
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Reply #11 - Aug 3rd, 2012, 3:22pm
 
I suppose they would make good ammo, when hardened.  
 
Probably was an added humiliation, kill youre enemy with their comrades own brain!
 
One thing though, I wouldnt take any non contemporary written source as fact, probably did happen but so much is embellished.
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Reply #12 - Aug 3rd, 2012, 9:32pm
 
Cead mile failte! That being about the whole extent of my Irish. Glad to have you amongst the Rabble. Enjoy yourself.
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Reply #13 - Aug 4th, 2012, 8:17am
 
Maith thu!
 
You probably have more Irish than many Irish people!  
 
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Reply #14 - Aug 16th, 2012, 5:46pm
 
Hi Lugh, Welcome from Spain!
 
I love Irish stories about The Red Branch and Cuchulainn.
 
As far as I know the "tathlum" was made adding lime to an enemy brain.
 
The god Lugh Lamhfada killed his granfather Balor, throwing a "tathlum" to his deadly eye before he opened it completely. So you must remember how to make a good brain ball and cast it  Grin
 
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