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Roman+Balearic slinger vs Dacian+Sarmatian Battle (Read 5059 times)

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Reply #60 - Jul 21^st, 2012, 3:25pm

Quote from Mauro Fiorentini on Jul 19^th, 2012, 5:52am:

Nice history and well written too, fantastic pics, gears and clothing as always! Grin

A pity you changed the history Sad

but if the public already knew the "real" history, no problem then Wink

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Mauro.

Yep,most people know that the romans finally conquered Dacia and it's said that they took about 225 tonnes of gold and 500 tonnes of silver. I can't guarantee you that it's true,but i've also read that the Rome flourished after they got home from the war and their currency got weakened from introducing a huge amount of gold and silver. Maybe you know more about this,and you can correct me.I just know some things superficially and i may be wrong.

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Reply #62 - Jul 21^st, 2012, 3:34pm

Quote from Lugh-Lamhfada on Jul 20^th, 2012, 11:37am:

Amazing event!

The Getai are one of my favourite groups, anyone who made the Romans have to redesign their armour due to having their heads collapsed in and limbs hacked off by falx and sica get into my fan book.

Some Getai units from a historical mod game

http://www.europabarbarorum.com/factions_getai_units.html

Yep,overhand,and they usually hold the shield also with their left knee,when pushing,or defending against a charge,and also using the gladius to hold the upper part of the shield. So with the knee on the bottom,hand on the middle and gladius on top,the shield can withstand a full charge of Dacian horde Cheesy

Also when they try to pull the shield down with the billhook,or the falx,the roman soldier uses his knee to keep the shield from pivoting in his hand.

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Reply #63 - Jul 21^st, 2012, 4:17pm

Very short shots from the whole battle,and demonstrations..unbelievable that they can't make good videos about such events. 30 people gather from all over the country,bring literally tonnes of equipment and they make 20 sec videos?? under critique.
Here's a demo about 2 romans vs 2 dacians.You can see how that damned billhook can catch a shield or get under the helmets neck guard,to cut the romans neck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhwwxL1XT6g&feature=related

Here a short vid of the attack after the Dacian fortress gate has been broken with the ram. A newcome sarmatian lady is also fighting on my side

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEmYh1Wo7o8

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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: Roman+Balearic slinger vs Dacian+Sarmatian Bat Reply #64 - Jul 21^st, 2012, 6:12pm Jlasud I bet what you wrote about the Romans plundering Dacia is true - no chance that a population can live in peace with another if there's an Empire involved Greetings, Mauro.
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Reply #65 - Jul 22^nd, 2012, 2:10am

I'm sure that the romans took gold and probably everything worth carrying back.The numbers are more in question. But it was enough to pay the legions and remain enough to make a jump in roman economy so it was substantial. It's no wonder,there are a few gold mines around here.
It's funny how nowadays they take Rosia Montana with politics and cheap tricks,without any fighting. And it works because people are stupid and divided.
Empires rise and fall.Time is right,and destroys everything that's not. Babylon,your throne's gone down.

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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: Roman+Balearic slinger vs Dacian+Sarmatian Bat Reply #67 - Jul 31^st, 2012, 6:05pm Jla did you change something in your sword?? And what can you tell me about your shield's boss? Greetings, Mauro.
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Reply #68 - Aug 1^st, 2012, 5:56am

well the scabbard got some bronze sheet on the nose and on the end,as visible.Also I've put a shoulder strap for the scabbard,as it originally was.First times,i hung it from the belt.Now the scabbard goes with the shoulderstrap to hang on my right,then i tie the belt on it,so it holds the scabbard from flip-flopping during charge PERCUTAA!.
The shield boss was made by me,and it has an outer diameter of 22cm and the hemisphere,the diam. of 15 cm. It's been hammered from an iron sheet of 1.5mm,into a pre-carved hard wood trunk mold,with a ball peen hammer. Can't find the cam's uploader cable..so no pics for now

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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: Roman+Balearic slinger vs Dacian+Sarmatian Bat Reply #69 - Aug 1^st, 2012, 7:04am I knew there was something new Good work with that boss, don't forget to add it to our blacksmithing threads! What are the archaeological or historical references for the boss? It looks like a Celtic type to me. Greetings, Mauro.
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Reply #70 - Aug 1^st, 2012, 9:23am

The boss has been hammered cold,so it's not quite balcksmithing,but i can add a photo,and a short description if you still want.
As far as I know,there were mostly hemispherical bosses along with cone shaped ones as well. Hemisphericals were very widespread and used in many,many cultures.
Caetra shield remains have been found with such shape,and general size. It's what iberians used,and also people of the balearic islands.

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Reply #71 - Aug 1^st, 2012, 9:30am

Iberians also adopted things from celts,and people on the balearic islands were probably in the crossfire of very busy ship trade routes,so i think equipment was more divers and not so well defined as we might think of it today.
Out of a few or many thousand slingers,there were probablu with\or without shield,variations of the shield and it's size. Variations of swords..some might haven't even carried one,or picked up one after a battle...threw the old one etc. About as many slingers they were one the balearic islands as much divers their equipment must had been.
My shield is 55cm diam. and weights about 3kg and it's made of 3x 4mm laminated wood.It would stop arrows from a warbow,stones,glans from a sling,sword blows,one hand axe blows etc.

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Jaegoor Interfector Viris Spurii Slinging Rocks! Posts: 1069 Gender:	Re: Roman+Balearic slinger vs Dacian+Sarmatian Bat Reply #72 - Sep 4^th, 2012, 12:58pm my sword Smiley handmade bei jaegoor
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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: Roman+Balearic slinger vs Dacian+Sarmatian Bat Reply #74 - Sep 4^th, 2012, 2:20pm Ikea ist fantastisch! Aber dies ist eine Diskussion über alt Osteuropa Krieger, und ihre Waffen sind ältester der etwa 1000 Jahre. Bitte offnen Sie eine andere Diskussion Greetings, Mauro.
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