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Yurek style Cestrosphendone (Read 1747 times)

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Yurek style Cestrosphendone
Jun 5^th, 2012, 6:47am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rb6TfNRdew

Following Yurek's advice I tried attaching the dart at the center of balance. This works much better than my previous tail attachment method. It throws cleanly with far less tail-wagging and it also flies to the same point of aim as a stone launched from a normal sling. That last fact alone convinces me that the original Cestrosphendone would have been done this way.

This is a simple, safe and effective way to launch seriously deadly darts with a sling. The Apache throw in the video shows that a staff-sling Cestrofustibalus would be practical too.

Imagine a line of two-man staff sling teams, one man with the staff doing the throwing and one behind him doing the reloading. This would be fast, almost as fast as archery. They could launch huge darts, two feet long and weighing up to a pound each. These guys could rain down a fierce armour and shield piercing bombardment at over a hundred yards easily. I dont see how any heavy infantry formation could withstand something like that.

The Cestrosphendone is serious fun, you should all try it!

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benkolmer Descens Stone re-allocation specialist. Posts: 365 Gender:	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #1 - Jun 5^th, 2012, 8:31am I might have just found my next project!
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timann Interfector Viris Spurii Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2203 Gender:	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #2 - Jun 5^th, 2012, 11:36am Now THAT looks good I`ll probably try to make one myself. timann
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Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone
Reply #3 - Jun 5^th, 2012, 11:49am

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Pompey ... had just time to quit a post which he judged to be untenable and to occupy a neighboring eminence which the advantage of the ground, he hoped, would enable him to defend.

The place, being difficult of access, was assailed by missile weapons and particularly by those of a kind first employed by the Macedonians in the present war and named from a compound denoting the dart and sling whose powers the cestrosphendone united.

The Romans formed themselves into a close body with thickly compacted shields, the better to resist this deadly instrument; but the Macedonians compelled them again to divide by threatening on all sides to climb the eminence. In opposing these separate attacks the besieged suffered dreadfully from the sharpness of the darts discharged with unusual velocity....

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Pikåru Interfector Viris Spurii Experience teaches only the teachable... Posts: 1356 Gender:	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #4 - Jun 5^th, 2012, 12:07pm Mega Kudos. That was very, very cool!!
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Fundibularius Interfector Viris Spurii Sultan of Sling Posts: 1369 Gender:	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #5 - Jun 5^th, 2012, 3:46pm Absolutely cool!
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HaifischKuchen Descens Slinging Stones! Posts: 101 Gender:	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #6 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 5:22am That looks incredibly fun! And very simple to make the sling portion. I'm amazed you can throw it figure-8 style so cleanly! I'm going to have to figure out how to make a dart.
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Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone
Reply #7 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 6:38am

Very smart Smiley

Can't figure out how it gets released. But then I'm always a bit slow on the knotty side of things

(has another look).
Okay so the dowel locks the loop in - what causes the dowel to come out of the hole and release the dart ?
(thinks) the dowel is the retention cord and the weight of the dart pulls the dowle out and release the dart.
Nope that's not right. looks like dowel is release cord.
Guess I'm going to have to make one. lol
Ah ! It's all one piece of cord. Okay it's starting to make sense

Certainly flies well - But then david engvall obviously slung a dart for the world record for a reason.

That is a big nasty looking weapon as well.
Dunno so much about staff slings that fig 8 throw look extremely efficient.

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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2876	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #8 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 7:03am Yup, it hangs on the release cord with the retention cord slack. When you release it, the retention cord pulls the peg out of the now-slack noose and the dart is freed.
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Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone
Reply #9 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 2:19pm

I've wanted to do a kestrosphendone for years now and one of the things that prevented it was the supposed necessity of wood or other rigid material fins in the construction of the dart. This method completely eliminates that as well as the necessity for a finless aft stub. I had to try it yesterday, and with just the sling portion and a handfull of raw sticks, I can say I'm hooked.

Epic win guys!

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Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone
Reply #10 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 2:27pm

I cut the head of a 7" nail, drilled a hole in the end of a piece of broomstick, and glued the nail in place. After having added duct tape fletchings. I also did some "drop tests" with a piece of paracord and a pencil as sling. Seemed to work great. I`ll probably need to add a little more weight to the dart, and whittle a piece of wood instead of the pencil.

Hope I can catch the soccer field empty some time this weekend Wink

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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2876	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #11 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 3:23pm Nice work guys! Dont forget to take pics
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timpa Descens Stones in the horizon Posts: 298	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #12 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 6:06pm A good system! And David Morningstar looks like a Jedi Knight!
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Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone
Reply #13 - Jun 6^th, 2012, 10:35pm

Quote from David Morningstar on Jun 6^th, 2012, 7:03am:

Yup, it hangs on the release cord with the retention cord slack. When you release it, the retention cord pulls the peg out of the now-slack noose and the dart is freed.

I did a quick test last night and managed to throw a bic pen across a room. I used a second butterfly knot instead of a peg, which released fine. I was surprised how well it worked, since a pen is pretty light and not weighted at the front. Your photo of the dart in the sling is quite informative, since I could not understand the mechanism from your original photos (which used your thumb in place of the dart).

I was not able to get a bic pen to always fly point first. Do you have any trouble making sure the weighted dart keeps its point forward as you are throwing and releasing it?

Perhaps I will have to try to make a nerf dart for city use.

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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2876	Re: Yurek style Cestrosphendone Reply #14 - Jun 7^th, 2012, 3:09am The fins make it fly point first. If you start it off pointing in the right direction then it will align itself correctly through the full slinging action. Any old bit of straight stick, some duct tape fins and a good few windings of duct tape around the nose would do okay.
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