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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	An ancient Bowie knife prototype. May 22^nd, 2012, 8:04am Hallo people! Here it is, the original Bowie knife! It has been found in the Region Umbria, and dates back to the Early Middle Age (around 900 a.D.). These Lombard cowboys! Greetings, Mauro.
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Dan Interfector Viris Spurii SlingingGuide Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3394 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #1 - May 22^nd, 2012, 8:34am That's pretty cool. I wonder if it had a rat tail tang that broke off from age? Certaintately Jim Bowie wasn't the first one to invent the sharpened clip point, he just popularized it.
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Pikåru Interfector Viris Spurii Experience teaches only the teachable... Posts: 1358 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #2 - May 22^nd, 2012, 11:27am Ditto Daniel Chan. Nicely put.
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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #3 - May 22^nd, 2012, 2:00pm Yes I bet its tail is broken! I should have a closer picture of it but I can't find it anywhere! Just tought you'd have liked the coincidence Greetings, Mauro.
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Pikåru Interfector Viris Spurii Experience teaches only the teachable... Posts: 1358 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #4 - May 22^nd, 2012, 2:38pm If only the blade could speak. If it could be placed in a machine that would show where it's been like a documentary. It's very cool. Thanks for sharing. You always come up with very interesting posts.
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Reply #5 - May 22^nd, 2012, 3:21pm

Thanks for your kindness, I'm glad to share my interests here.
The first time I found an ancient object - it was the piece of a Late Roman brick! - I imagined the very same things: who took the clay, who modeled the brick, who cooked it, who used it to build a wall, who lived inside these walls, for how long, who died inside that house, when did they abandon the house, what happened next, why did the house collapse, and how many hours did this fragment pass under the ground... it always amazes me to think how many people lived on Earth before me... they're just shadows now and what's left of their lives are these tiny fragments of history...
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Bill Skinner Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 1350	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #6 - May 22^nd, 2012, 10:54pm "We can see farther now because we are standing on the shoulders of giants." They may be gone and forgotton but we wouldn't be where we are today without them.
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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #7 - May 23^rd, 2012, 6:37pm Pure bible!! I couldn't agree more Greetings, Mauro.
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bigkahuna Interfector Viris Spurii Past Moderator Posts: 3682 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #8 - May 23^rd, 2012, 8:56pm I can't see really well, but it appears that the upper curved false edge is not sharpened. Could You tell if it had been when you saw it???
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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #9 - May 24^th, 2012, 8:16am The knife is upside down! The edge is upward... mysteries of Italian curators! By the way I can't remember how sharp it was, but judging by the picture I assume it was a cool little blade for eating and doing little more. Judging by wearing, it must have been a good steel too! Greetings, Mauro.
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Reply #10 - May 24^th, 2012, 10:45pm

Nice, one observation is that it has quite a curve, is short for its width has a very slowly tapering point. This suggests to me it is for skinning as modern skinning knives tend to have a blade edge much like that, the slow tapering point would be for easier penetration to start your cut. I could be wrong but it looks a lot like a skinner to me.

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Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype.
Reply #11 - May 25^th, 2012, 7:36am

Quote from Mauro Fiorentini on May 24^th, 2012, 8:16am:

The knife is upside down!
The edge is upward... mysteries of Italian curators! Tongue

By the way I can't remember how sharp it was, but judging by the picture I assume it was a cool little blade for eating and doing little more. Judging by wearing, it must have been a good steel too!
Greetings,
Mauro.

When bk said "upper, curved false edge"he meant the edge on the bottom of the picture. The crescent shape made by cutting the clip out of the spine of the knife is either called a swedge or a false edge. Swedges are sharpened like the edge of the blade, false edges are not.

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Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype.
Reply #12 - May 25^th, 2012, 7:41am

Quote from LukeWebb on May 24^th, 2012, 10:45pm:

Nice, one observation is that it has quite a curve, is short for its width has a very slowly tapering point. This suggests to me it is for skinning as modern skinning knives tend to have a blade edge much like that, the slow tapering point would be for easier penetration to start your cut. I could be wrong but it looks a lot like a skinner to me.

my thoughts exactly. Smiley

Defintely a more specialised blade than a bowie.

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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: An ancient Bowie knife prototype. Reply #13 - May 26^th, 2012, 10:50am Thanks Masi! So the Bowie knife has a wedge, and this one a false edge? Greetings, Mauro.
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