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May 16th, 2012 at 7:43pm
 
Recently I've indulged myself and bought a Hennessey Hammock for some true solo camping. I've had great fun and plenty of good sleeps but it has lead me to think about the limitations of the sling where hammocking is viable. More specifically in the trees, where visibility is limited and your sling may catch on branches. I've been successful in some small game hunting out in the open but this is easy because depending on the range I'm at I can either choose from the figure 8 style overhand for distance or the greek throw modified to a side arm for high accuracy. I've had success with both these styles but that all came to an end when I slung for a porcupine in the trees.

I had seen it upwind as it was minding its own business so I circled it about 45 degrees to get into an open clearing. At 25 yards the porcupine was certainly looking like dinner but I was mistaken. I used the sidearm to save space but alas my face was greeted by my pouch ( thankfully empty) with a painful sting! It has clipped the branches on either side of me and ejected the stone and left my pride stinging.  Now I know that I could have used a shorter sling but who wants to spend the time redoing your knots  or carrying another one all together.

Heres my solution: Larger stones and shorter sling lines. I've found that you can compensate for the momentum you loose using shorter lines by increasing the mass orbiting your release point. That means slinging almost as far and as hard with more accuracy thanks to the  shorter lines. This unfortunately means you have to carry two slings. One for accuracy and tight quarters and another for power and distance, unless your quick with your knots that is.....
I found a good fix for this thats quick and easy! Using a single loop chain (attached photo) I shorten only my release line, leaving the fastened line long but wrapped about my hand in the appropriate manner to equal the length of the release. This means that you can change one sling into any number of lengths making it ever more useful and less deadly to the thrower in dense bush!
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Re: Different slings for different things
Reply #1 - May 16th, 2012 at 8:36pm
 
my prefered sling length is the length of my arm. so bush slinging is not to hard for me.
and dont underestimate the underhand style for dense woods.
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Reply #2 - May 17th, 2012 at 7:18am
 
okay - so how do you shorten or lengthen the chain thingy ?
(I'm not a knot expert Smiley
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Reply #3 - May 17th, 2012 at 7:56am
 
I used to just tie a double overhadn knot in my sling. I've found the shortest I can go is about 20in and I have a balearic split pouch that's about 21in that works pretty well in tight brush.

Not sure if you've read any of our hunting topics here but the 'shorter cords and heavier stones' transition is pretty much universal.

In most woods I can sling with my 27in sling, which is way more powerfull, with little difficulty. It's just the dense areas that it becomes difficult.

It also sounds like slinging underarm might have helped you out too.
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Reply #4 - May 17th, 2012 at 9:01am
 
curious_aardvark wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 7:18am:
okay - so how do you shorten or lengthen the chain thingy ?
(I'm not a knot expert Smiley  


You start by knotting a basic slipping loop, and then you make another loop inside this one. From here, you can either stop the chain by pulling the rest of your cord through the last loop or creating another loop. To lenghten the chain, you continue creating loops as long as you have cord / as you want.

To shorten it, you pull back the free end and you keep pulling this end free of your loops, which will be undoing themself, until your chain is short enough. Then, you pull the free end through the last loop.

That's how I finish my release cords, and how I shorten my slings to let children try it, or when my girlfriend forgot hers...

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And on a bonus note, you now know how to crochet. Wink
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Reply #5 - May 19th, 2012 at 3:33pm
 
Chain hitching isn't the best method in my opinion. It would take a minute to do for both strands, and would be somewhat of a hassle- especially with cold fingers or gloves on. I think it would be easier to tie a locked sheep shank, or devise some sort of clip on thing. If you weren't in a hurry, then no problemo. But if you were in a hurry, or if you were constantly switching lengths, then I would think it is.

Also, I would think that any knotting or sheep shanking would make the sling oddly weighted and release differently from a normal sling. Not sure if this would be a major problem or something that a few tosses couldn't fix

I also disagree with two different lengths. The longer length in theory allows for more power, but in reality I find only a few yards difference. Stick with the shorter useful length Smiley, unless you really prefer the longer one. Instead, why not use a mini/hand staff sling? I recall a video of someone using a 'staff' that was a foot long piece of PVC. The added distance and power (in my opinion) offset the potential problem with carrying it around. You could probably just roll your sleeping bag, clothes, etc around it to take up less space.

Just some ideas.
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Reply #6 - May 19th, 2012 at 4:29pm
 
I've gotten a surprising amount of power with the Over Shoulder throw and an 18 inch sling in the past couple weeks. Can't beat it for hunting in forests.

I use mostly paracord slings so I just use overhand knots. It's never a problem for me. Cool idea with the loop chain thingy though. If I remember correctly Yurek had a similar solution to shortening his slings.
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Reply #7 - May 20th, 2012 at 12:03am
 
Yep, Yurek did shorten his slings by strategically knotting them. I believe he used the method that kid wrote about, a sheep shank. I'm also a hammock camper (ENO) and have had problems with catching my sling on branches. My solution was to make a new 18" sling.
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Reply #8 - May 21st, 2012 at 11:52am
 
I'll try the underhand throw. Its one that I really haven't put too much time into yet. I still feel really awkward on the release!
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Reply #9 - May 21st, 2012 at 3:24pm
 
Yurek gave me a nice sling made from synthetic cords ~3-4mm thick and sliding knots that slide only if you pull by the knot and cannot slide while rotating the sling.I can make it about 50% longer from it's shortest setting.Very ingenious  Wink Ask him the details...
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Reply #10 - May 21st, 2012 at 3:42pm
 
Yurek gave me a nice sling made from synthetic cords ~3-4mm thick and sliding knots that slide only if you pull by the knot and cannot slide while rotating the sling.I can make it about 50% longer from it's shortest setting.Very ingenious  Wink Ask him the details...
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Reply #11 - May 21st, 2012 at 3:45pm
 
Hi, codyrobichaud;
   Welcome.  I like your idea but honestly, an extra sling is no problem for me to carry.  I almost always carry two or three with me.  For general use I like a sling about 38".  For those tight spots that you describe I like a short sling, but one no shorter than 24".  After that I loose power.  I'm tall with long arms, BTW.  Like Dan and Liberty dog I also like underhand for tight spaces like skinny trails.  It's my most accurate style too.
    So what does porcupine taste like?  I've eaten a lot of different things and I'm open to almost anything, but I've never had the chance to try porcupine.
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