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Re: What are some good "modern" combat knives
Reply #15 - May 12th, 2012, 3:57pm
 
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i have several K-Bar´s and killed one of my Full Size USMC during making wood for the fire, that´s why i chang to ESEE. I love the USMC but the ESEE4 is stronger and when i kill it:
http://www.eseeknives.com/warranty.htm
 
 
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Reply #16 - May 12th, 2012, 9:09pm
 
Quote from Greenman on May 12th, 2012, 2:39pm:
I prefer handmade, fixed blade knives for survival and combat. Better than the mass-produced crap i have found in recent times.

Check out http://www.forgedknives.co.za/

I like the Puuko91...

I have some 6mm / 1/4" springsteel blades and when the time comes, i will ask Stuart, the knife smith, to make me some Puuko's for me, my wife and my dauthers. A matching set.

He heats the metal to remove the "spring", shapes (i will ask for full tangs to strengthen the overall and improve balance), drills, and sharpens the blades. Then returns the "spring" to the blade and finishes it in your choice of handle.

Imagine a hand-crafted 6mm, 1/4" thick, spring-steel blade on a custom made knife.

Excellent for carving or crafting wood or sticking into the neck or renal vein/artery of the enemy... Depending on choice of your attack.

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Re: What are some good "modern" combat knives
Reply #17 - May 12th, 2012, 9:39pm
 
You can break an anvil if you are stupid and you work at it.  I have seen K Bars used to chop brush, open ammo crates, knife throwing contests and all sorts of really stupid things that you really should have been using something else besides a K Bar.  The only damage that I have seen is the tip gets broken off, down to about 1/4 inch, (6mm).  They were prying open ammo cans that had been shut for 20 years and the waterproofing strip was sticking to the top of the can.  They were also being stupid, a kick would open them easily but that was too much work, and they would have finished much too quickly and had to leave their shady spot.
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Reply #18 - May 12th, 2012, 9:58pm
 
ESEE has a strong following.  Swamp Rat Knives and Scrap Yard Knives are reasonably priced affiliates of Busse, which is good, but pricey.  Kabar makes their own knives and also makes the Becker line, which also has a strong following.  I have some large (12-13 inch blades) Cold Steel blades that are extremely tough, and hold an edge well.  They'll make it through the ABS Journeyman's test of cutting a 2x4 twice and still shaving.  They are 1055 carbon steel, which is used in the GI Tanto, if smaller blades are required.
 
Depending on your budget, I'd go handmade.  You can get some very nice blades for $200 and less, they just won't have the big name makers marks.  Oh, I'm assuming you're in the US.  If not, the handmade stuff may be out of reach.  I have no idea how much they are anywhere but here.
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Reply #19 - May 13th, 2012, 11:34am
 
I would tend to separate the two functions.  A knife intended as a weapon should not be subjected to utility chores; it should remain razor-sharp and be designed for combat of whatever style you've been trained in.
 
Other tools are better for utility functions; all over the world machete-type blades are used for all manner of things and can, of course, function as hacking/slashing weapons.
To my way of thinking, a combat knife needs to capable of both cutting and thrusting.
 
The Randall Model ! design is about perfect for the styles of fighting I'm familiar with; a modified Bowie with sharpened back third, where the "false edge" of a Bowie would be.   6-7 inches in the blade.   Good enough point for thrusting, enough curve for cutting.
The "stilletto" type blade is excellent for thrusting but many designs (like the Fairbairn "English Commando") are weak and tend to break.
The K-Bar is a super-tough GP knife but to my mind the point is not well-designed for efficient thrusting.
 
The chance that a contemporary soldier will use a knife in actual combat is extremely small; the modern combat knife tends to be a tool with a tiny chance of functioning as a "last-ditch" weapon.
 
Maybe not the case for special operations guys.
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Reply #20 - May 13th, 2012, 1:47pm
 
I got this Buck model 119 Special for Christmas.  I like it a lot.  It's as sharp as a straight razor.  The sheath is very heavy leather and the knife has a lifetime guarantee.
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Reply #21 - May 13th, 2012, 8:38pm
 
I've never been particularly fond of Buck Knives. The handles just feel too slick for my liking. I would prefer a Gerber instead and they are about in the same price range.
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Reply #22 - May 14th, 2012, 8:05am
 
I know what you mean about buck kinves, but gerber's steel (in their camp knives) is infeirior to most knife companies. I have a few, and they are good for moderate use but they dull easilly. So, you could use them for camping, but I wouldn't split some wood then try to fight with them right after.
 
Trust me, It's worth it to spend more money on a good knife because you are going to do it evenutally anyway.  
Buy a nice Ontario or Cold Steel and you won't dissapointed.
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Reply #23 - May 23rd, 2012, 6:02pm
 
I've had my Buck knife since Christmas but I babied it because it was new.  As most of you know I just got back from a week's worth of camping.  During this time I decided to stop babying my knife.  I used it for all manner of chore and bushcraft.  Someone even borrowed it to slice peppers and onions for dinner.  Through all of it's many tasks it held its edge well (I only had to sharpen it once), was easy to use, and sharpened up to its previous razor's edge easily.  If its lacking in some way I didn't detect it.
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Reply #24 - May 23rd, 2012, 7:28pm
 
Kabar has just introduced a new "combat kukri" that's the same size as their bowie knives. That's next on my list of survival knives to buy, but I've decided I wont buy another without selling what I've got so it'll be a while. They've also reintroduced the becker machax with a thicker (full) tang than previous incarnations. Ethan Becker himself calls it his favorite knife he designed, and the current model is his favorite ever produced.
 
In my neck of the woods a large, thick knife does the best job or brush clearing. Machetes are too thin and axes are overbuilt. We've got lots of soft wood and the trees are usually pretty skinny.
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Reply #25 - May 23rd, 2012, 8:31pm
 
In my area there could be young thin trees,  and in the mountains some thick old trees of most types like cotton woods Ive seen em real thick and some birch etc.  soo my guess would be those two man saws for takin em down if needed haha like in the old days and maybe large axes,  but the most I would take is a large knife like my recently new kabar large heavy bowie and maybe my small pocket knife last time i went in de mountains(cramped up bad soo we turned back Shocked) forgot a pack saw tho I saw some birch burls I really wanted for cup carving etc... packed some heat too haha a short barreled taurus judge in 45 colt for critter protection.
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Re: What are some good "modern" combat knives
Reply #26 - May 24th, 2012, 8:22am
 
Quote from Masiakasaurus on May 23rd, 2012, 7:28pm:
Kabar has just introduced a new "combat kukri" that's the same size as their bowie knives. That's next on my list of survival knives to buy, but I've decided I wont buy another without selling what I've got so it'll be a while. They've also reintroduced the becker machax with a thicker (full) tang than previous incarnations. Ethan Becker himself calls it his favorite knife he designed, and the current model is his favorite ever produced.

In my neck of the woods a large, thick knife does the best job or brush clearing. Machetes are too thin and axes are overbuilt. We've got lots of soft wood and the trees are usually pretty skinny.

 
 
I live in medium and large hardwoods with brush only in the areas that have been logged or where the big trees have died. The best combo around here is a medium size knife and a small axe or tomahawk, maybe a small knife too.  
 
My next blade is going to be the Ontario Kukri. More for the zombie apocolpyse than wood processing but I'm sure it will work well for either.
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Reply #27 - May 24th, 2012, 3:43pm
 
Quote from Rat Man on May 23rd, 2012, 6:02pm:
I've had my Buck knife since Christmas but I babied it because it was new.  As most of you know I just got back from a week's worth of camping.  During this time I decided to stop babying my knife.  I used it for all manner of chore and bushcraft.  Someone even borrowed it to slice peppers and onions for dinner.  Through all of it's many tasks it held its edge well (I only had to sharpen it once), was easy to use, and sharpened up to its previous razor's edge easily.  If its lacking in some way I didn't detect it.

The best thing to a knife is when it get it`s first nick in it`s edge, because only then it can be truly used(almost a Norwegian proverb) Wink
I got a few combat knives, like gerber mark II, some MIII type, cold steel peacekeeper somthing I think 7" carbonV.  Cool but not practical for use other than killing.  
Any utiliarian knife will get the job done, mora, cold steel trail master, kukri, machete, anything between.  I got a bunch of knives and not one of them is all that best.  
Just stay away from cheap, fancy, and soft, thick edged junk knives. Wink
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Reply #28 - May 24th, 2012, 3:47pm
 
Wow, you have the peace keeper in Carbon V, that's awesome! They stopped making those like 8 years ago and stopped using carbonV -which is generally supieror to aus8- shortly after they outsourced everything.
 
Is yours one of the old U.S.A. blades?
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Reply #29 - May 25th, 2012, 11:11am
 
Indeed it is, "MADE IN USA"  Smiley  
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