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May 1st, 2012, 6:48am
 
The most recent issue of this magazine has an interesting article on the Scottish hillfort of Burnwark. In 158, AD, there were 2 Roman camps built there. Among the physical evidence that they left  behind were lead glandes. A similar fort called the Birrens also yielded glandes.
 The controversy is why were they using them? Was there a real battle, or were they merely being used for target practice?
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Reply #1 - May 1st, 2012, 7:25am
 
158ad in scotland ?  
Oh hell yeah there were real battles.  
 
Them bloody celts will attack anything Smiley
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Reply #2 - May 1st, 2012, 10:17am
 

Picts, surely?
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Reply #3 - May 1st, 2012, 3:03pm
 
Quote from David Morningstar on May 1st, 2012, 10:17am:

Picts, surely?

I'm sure that's what he really meant Grin.
 
Is this article based on anything 'newish?'. The notion that it was a training camp was fairly convincingly argued by Davies in 1972.
The Romans at Burnswark, R. W. Davies.  Zeitschrift für Alte Geschichte, Vol. 21, No. 1 (1st Qtr., 1972), pp. 99-113
 
I happen to have a recent photograph of the sling bullets - err... actually I think these are from Birrens, I can't find my notes. These are at the Hunterian Museum, University of Glasgow. Also a pottery sling bullet found somewhere else in Scotland.
 
These acorns are pretty much natural size, not as I recollected in another post them being rather large for British acorns. Smiley
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Reply #4 - May 1st, 2012, 4:07pm
 

Why wouldnt they take an acorn out of its cup before using it as a mold form? Why wouldnt they use a form with a more biconical shape made of wax or clay or whittled from a piece of wood?
 
I am not convinced those lead acorns were intended for slinging.
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Reply #5 - May 2nd, 2012, 12:24am
 
Quote from David Morningstar on May 1st, 2012, 4:07pm:
I am not convinced those lead acorns were intended for slinging.

Neither am I. Or if they were I rather wonder if they were some Roman joke.
 
On the other hand Greep reckoned that they were sling-shot presumably on fairly solid evidence.
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Reply #6 - May 2nd, 2012, 6:29am
 
www.ancient-warfare.com
 This takes you to the magazines website.
There is a link where you can look up back issues and order them. Some of the issues have articles on slnging.
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Reply #7 - May 2nd, 2012, 6:34am
 
pretty sure the picts were all wiped out pre-bc - so I did mean celts.  
189ad is quite well on into the roman era.
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Reply #8 - May 2nd, 2012, 7:07am
 

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The Picts were a group of Late Iron Age and Early Mediaeval Celtic people living in ancient eastern and northern Scotland.[1] ... They are recorded from before the Roman conquest of Britain until the 10th century, when they merged with the Gaels.

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picts
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