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perpetualstudent

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Pouch Style
Apr 23^rd, 2012, 9:58am

So when I first came to slinging.org I made a netted sling as my first sling. Why would I undertake such a tedious project? 1. I'm not that smart and tend to bite off more than I should. 2. It made sense to me to have a pouch that cupped the ammo. Having no experience it made sense to me that a cupped pouch would be less likely to drop the stone. Now I'm no longer sure so I thought I'd open it up and see what people prefer and why.

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benkolmer Descens Stone re-allocation specialist. Posts: 366 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #1 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 10:27am I prefer a very slightly cupped pouch. I actually haven't had any deep cupped pouches yet, but I'm afraid they wouldn't release as well as something with just enough of a cup to keep the ammo in.
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curious_aardvark Slinging.org Administrator Taller than the average Dwarf Posts: 9039 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #2 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 11:48am no contest cupped. stops ammo going out sideways or backwards. Will hold larger variety of ammo. And is just as easy to make as a flat pouch.
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kentuckythrower Descens Illegitimi non carborundum Posts: 227	Re: Pouch Style Reply #3 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 1:55pm Ditto to all the above. I have always used cupped pouches as they hold the stone much more securely.
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Greenman Descens Posts: 256	Re: Pouch Style Reply #4 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 2:04pm I have never used any other pouch than flat. My pellets and stones dont fall out. They go far and do damage.
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Re: Pouch Style
Reply #5 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 2:24pm

When I drop the pouch at the first part of the fig-8 I try to just drop it as opposed to adding speed to it. Because of this I pretty much have to use a cupped leather pouch or the ammo falls out, as there is little centrifugal force to keep it in. My experience with flat pouches is comical at best. Even if I used a different throwing style I would still use a slightly cupped pouch.

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Re: Pouch Style
Reply #6 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 4:41pm

I'm all about the cupped leather pouch. Ammo retention to be sure. I like to cut and fold my pouches so they produce a "tensioned" cup as opposed to a stretched out wet-formed one. My leather is a bit heavier than most and my pouches are designed to wear in not wear out. Synthetic cords with a heavy cupped pouch will last a long time. You can see the ones in the attached pic are made from 3"X6" heavy latigo 5-7 oz. split on the ends and folded to form the cup. This is what I make pretty much exclusively now.

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Masiakasaurus Slinging.org Moderator mah-SEE-a-kah-SOR-us Posts: 4923 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #7 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 4:51pm I prefer a flat pouch, but a cupped pouch does make slinging easier.
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Dan Interfector Viris Spurii SlingingGuide Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 3389 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #8 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 5:05pm Well, I am not sure what a balearic sling is, but that's my preference. Any kind of slight cupping is ideal and greatly increases my faith in the safety of my throw.
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Re: Pouch Style
Reply #9 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 7:05pm

I voted cupped but with reservation. It depends a lot on the ammunition you use. If you use natural stones that are always rough and irregular then a flat pouch is quite adequate. In fact it is possible to sling smooth spherical ammo like golf balls from a flat pouch if you position it very carefully. However, generally it is preferable for a pouch to have some degree of cupping for balls. Just make sure that the pouch doesn't grip whatever ammunition you use so tightly that it snags on release.

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6thMichCav Tiro Posts: 23 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #10 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 7:33pm As cupped as possible while holding the stone. As flat as possible upon release.
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Aussie Past Moderator Joined Nov. 1, 2006 Luke 14:14 Posts: 3265 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #11 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 8:42pm Quote from 6thMichCav on Apr 23^rd, 2012, 7:33pm: As cupped as possible while holding the stone. As flat as possible upon release. You've encapsulated the paradox of the ideal sling.
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perpetualstudent

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Re: Pouch Style
Reply #12 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 9:50pm

Quote from Aussie on Apr 23^rd, 2012, 7:05pm:

I voted cupped but with reservation. It depends a lot on the ammunition you use. If you use natural stones that are always rough and irregular then a flat pouch is quite adequate. In fact it is possible to sling smooth spherical ammo like golf balls from a flat pouch if you position it very carefully. However, generally it is preferable for a pouch to have some degree of cupping for balls. Just make sure that the pouch doesn't grip whatever ammunition you use so tightly that it snags on release.

And that's my main point of contention. I like the idea of a cupped pouch, and I guess a rockman sling is slightly cupped, but my netted slings simply can't handle the rough stones I have access to in this area. So I wind up using the rockman. And the sling I got from pikaru in the last SITH had a flat woven pouch and it functions incredibly well. So the flat pouch worked better than I thought it would.

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xxkid123 Past Moderator Hallo, ich heiße kartoffel Posts: 4798 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #13 - Apr 23^rd, 2012, 10:13pm I like split pouches, but if I do go with a whole I generally cup it. I think it adds a bit of usability that a flat pouch might not have. However, since I mostly sling stones I don't really find a major difference. Plus a nicely cupped pouch is slightly more aesthetically appealing in my opinion.
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Rat Man Slinging.org Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 9442 Gender:	Re: Pouch Style Reply #14 - Apr 24^th, 2012, 4:17pm I voted cupped. I have flat pouched slings that I like but I prefer cupped pouches because they're easier. If your form is perfect then it shouldn't matter but no one is perfect all of the time. Cupping hedges your bet.
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Poll
Question: How do you prefer your pouch?
Cupped 18 (72%) Flat 7 (28%) Total votes: 25 « Created by: perpetualstudent on: Apr 23^rd, 2012, 9:58am »