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Reply #15 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

Braiding, weaving, knots, making different ... hand crafted stuff.... from borrowed or self invented ideas, this hobbies and interests is just so much greater for us who are also slingers. For us it is pure fun to spend more than a few minutes on a ... project ... like a sling. And we can use (or trade) what we make instead of just stuff it in a drawer.

People with no interest in hand crafted artsy cordage stuff, like curious_aardwaark and Aussie, can make and use simpler but perfectly usefull slings without the slightest worry whatsoever.

What is best is usually what one is us used to, anyway.

I usually use braided slings. I began making and using them long ago, they feel comfortablr to me, I can aim with them pretty well, and I get instantly annoyed when thin cords tangle, which happen when I use a un-braided sling, which I in fact still sometimes make.
Like the seat belt slings I use for snow balls and a small leather pouch with wery thin poly cords for golf ball distance throwing, because it seem like the natural choice.
Wery thin cords = leather finger loop, no reason not to listen to curious_aardvark Wink

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slingingrat Funditor Offline I never miss the rock allways hits something Posts: 533 Hagerstown MD Gender:	Re: Old vs. New Reply #16 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 3:19pm I think cost has some to do with it i can make a very nice plant fiber sling for about 1$ where as a 550 cord sling with a steel finger loop like the one in the pic cost about 10$ to make but it dose last a lot longer
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Reply #17 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 6:35pm

I'm picking up here that some feel that slings made with synthetics have an advantage in distance. I would say they're more durable, but as far as distance, accuracy, etc.. I don't see where synthetics have any advantage over slings made with natural materials. My jute, cotton, and hemp slings shoot just as far as those made with paracord, nylon, and polypropylene.

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Reply #18 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 6:43pm

I would agree under normal circumstances but I could see under a world record setting event, like if distance slinging ever went to the Olympics, that people might use a 3 strand Dyneema cord (something like cotton thread in diameter) to eek out every last inch of distance. Not sure if it would matter but I imagine the practically zero wind resistance such a cord would offer might give better performance if someone was competing at such a high level. All hypothetical though, I could be wrong about that.

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Reply #20 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 8:49pm

Morphy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

I would agree under normal circumstances but I could see under a world record setting event, like if distance slinging ever went to the Olympics, that people might use a 3 strand Dyneema cord (something like cotton thread in diameter) to eek out every last inch of distance. Not sure if it would matter but I imagine the practically zero wind resistance such a cord would offer might give better performance if someone was competing at such a high level. All hypothetical though, I could be wrong about that.

I've never noticed a difference with cord type, there's barely enough wind resistance as it is. It's all in the ammo.

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Reply #21 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 9:16pm

xxkid123 wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 8:49pm:

Morphy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

I would agree under normal circumstances but I could see under a world record setting event, like if distance slinging ever went to the Olympics, that people might use a 3 strand Dyneema cord (something like cotton thread in diameter) to eek out every last inch of distance. Not sure if it would matter but I imagine the practically zero wind resistance such a cord would offer might give better performance if someone was competing at such a high level. All hypothetical though, I could be wrong about that.

I've never noticed a difference with cord type, there's barely enough wind resistance as it is. It's all in the ammo.

I disagree. I get noticeably more wind resistance with a fat three-strand flat braid I got from a guy than I do with a tight four-strand round braid.

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xxkid123 Past Moderator Offline Hallo, ich heiße kartoffel Posts: 4798 new to california Gender:	Re: Old vs. New Reply #22 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 9:36pm Really? I've never noticed it regardless of cord thickness. Actually, now that I think of it, I do get some wind resistance when using very light weight cords.
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Reply #23 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 9:44pm

Olympic archery rigs have all sorts of crazy gizmos to get every last advantage possible no matter how small. When you get to such a high level, even the smallest things can mean the difference between winning and losing. That's kind of what I am thinking with that comment. Again, whether it's true or not, who knows. I would have to withhold any conclusions until I knew for sure.

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Reply #24 - Apr 14^th, 2012 at 11:15pm

[quote author=MikeRouten link=1334336243/0#11 date=1334373529]Everyone,

Thank you for the discussion. I agree that the Glock is the epitome of the modern firearm and certainly has its place. Yet sometimes, a .50 cal flintlock is just what is called for.

I can see that in fairly short order I'll have a stable full of slings of different styles and materials.

The Dyneema I have is 1/8" and is commonly referred to as [url]Amsteel Blue http://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?rope=192[/url]

It has very high strength and abrasion resistance. It is often used to replace wire rope on sailboats for their standing rigging.

I've been using it to hold me up in my hammock so I know it is plenty strong for a sling. In the next week or so I should be able to get my hands on some good leather. When I do I'll put some of my Amsteel to use and see how it performs.

While I've got your attention, what is a good length for a sling for a figure-8 throwing style? My current sling is about 33" when I'm holding both ends.

Thanks,

Mike [/quote]
Hey, welcome Mike! I like my slings in the 25-30 inch range. For Fig. 8 it depends on how tall you are and how long your arms are. There is no magic number. Just experiment and find what works best for you. I use a 30 inch for distance and one a few inches shorter for accuracy.

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Reply #25 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 1:54pm

Morphy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 9:44pm:

Olympic archery rigs have all sorts of crazy gizmos to get every last advantage possible no matter how small. When you get to such a high level, even the smallest things can mean the difference between winning and losing. That's kind of what I am thinking with that comment. Again, whether it's true or not, who knows. I would have to withhold any conclusions until I knew for sure.

I agree. If you were slinging for every last fraction of an inch at that sort of level possibly the lesser wind resistance and stretch of a sling made with synthetic material(s) would give you a very small (inches if that?) advantage. For normal, everyday use though I'd say there's no difference.

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Reply #26 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 2:14pm

Rat Man wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

Morphy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 9:44pm:

Olympic archery rigs have all sorts of crazy gizmos to get every last advantage possible no matter how small. When you get to such a high level, even the smallest things can mean the difference between winning and losing. That's kind of what I am thinking with that comment. Again, whether it's true or not, who knows. I would have to withhold any conclusions until I knew for sure.

I agree. If you were slinging for every last fraction of an inch at that sort of level possibly the lesser wind resistance and stretch of a sling made with synthetic material(s) would give you a very small (inches if that?) advantage. For normal, everyday use though I'd say there's no difference.

The real differece comes, as I see it, with the use of a sinlge strand of syntetic stuff. 1 to perhaps less than 3 millimeters, and way thinner than paracord. Thinner than you`d trust a natural material, it can be used safely for ultra-slim distance slings.
As soon as strands of this super strong materials is braided together it becomes thicker and looses it`s obvious advantage.
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Reply #28 - Apr 15^th, 2012 at 3:44pm

timann wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 2:14pm:

Rat Man wrote on Apr 15^th, 2012 at 1:54pm:

Morphy wrote on Apr 14^th, 2012 at 9:44pm:

Olympic archery rigs have all sorts of crazy gizmos to get every last advantage possible no matter how small. When you get to such a high level, even the smallest things can mean the difference between winning and losing. That's kind of what I am thinking with that comment. Again, whether it's true or not, who knows. I would have to withhold any conclusions until I knew for sure.

I agree. If you were slinging for every last fraction of an inch at that sort of level possibly the lesser wind resistance and stretch of a sling made with synthetic material(s) would give you a very small (inches if that?) advantage. For normal, everyday use though I'd say there's no difference.

The real differece comes, as I see it, with the use of a sinlge strand of syntetic stuff. 1 to perhaps less than 3 millimeters, and way thinner than paracord. Thinner than you`d trust a natural material, it can be used safely for ultra-slim distance slings.
As soon as strands of this super strong materials is braided together it becomes thicker and looses it`s obvious advantage.
timann

Exactly, like a single strand of spider wire.

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Liberty dog Funditor Offline mobile pocket artillery Posts: 562 south carolina, usa Gender:	Re: Old vs. New Reply #29 - Apr 16^th, 2012 at 12:11am I like the looks of natural fiber slings.........but prefer nylon slings due to the fact that i use them hard and find that replacing nylon cords is faster that natural cord......... like Aussie i use manmade cord.........and duct tape pouches. nothing stands up to a wet day of slinging like it.......just my humble opinion
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