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Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts
Reply #90 - Jun 27^th, 2012, 5:07am

C_A, ref your post of May 3. It appears from Caesar that in the very late Iron Age they did do the "completely surround the fort" tactic, in serious warfare, followed by burning the gates. My guess for other cases, though, is that the hillfort defences were enough to keep short-term raiders out for a while and that the limited water supply wasn't therefore too much of a problem. Some sites have ponds, and they could collect runoff rain from the thatches etc, but real dew ponds have puddled clay linings to keep the water in, so would have been found by archaeologists. Pete

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Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts
Reply #91 - Aug 6^th, 2012, 5:02am

Hi All,

I've been going through a "fallow" period, including spending some time on an excavation of a hillfort in Wales (hard work!).
I'm now getting back to organising the slinging experiment.

To do the experiment, I have to go through a lot of "uninteresting" work. There's preparing targets, the bureaucracy around the site permissions, and more bureaucracy around the Safety Plan and so on. So I'm keen to make sure that it is going to work before I do all that.

One show-stopper could be if I can't get enough expert slingers to make it a real balanced experiment, so it would help me a great deal if those of you in Britain could let me know if you're prepared to volunteer for a day. You'd spend several hours slinging in a fine landscape in southern England, to a pre-arranged plan. It should be interesting, especially if you're into the ancient use of slings.

If you think you can do this, please drop me an email or a PM to say so. By all means ask questions. If I can help with arrangements, I will.

Many thanks in advance,

Pete

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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #92 - Aug 6^th, 2012, 5:04am Welcome back Pete! Bureaucracy may be annoying but it's going to end sooner or later It's great to hear you again, I'm sure you'll find many volounteers! I'd love to be one of them if only I could reach Britain Greetings, Mauro.
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mile-end Tiro Student of the Iron Age Posts: 59 Gender:	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #93 - Aug 6^th, 2012, 5:35am Thanks Mauro. Can't you get over here for a conference or sometrhing, maybe the Prehistoric Society Euro conference next Spring?
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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2878	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #94 - Aug 6^th, 2012, 7:26am Weekend or midweek?
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Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts
Reply #95 - Aug 6^th, 2012, 9:11am

It will be a while before it happens, but I hope/expect to be able to chose the dates of the trials to suit the slingers, so either midweek or weekend as is most convenient to you.

It's most likely to be in Dorset - I know that doesn't suit everyone, hence my comment that I will try to help with travel if necessary, so I'm still looking elsewhere, too.

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Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts
Reply #96 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 10:13am

I've now got permission from the National Trust to use their hill fort for the experiment. One of the conditions is that I finish by early April, for conservation reasons. I need a bit of time to get ready, so basically that means running the experiment in March.

So, if you are able to spend a few hours slinging at my target on a hill fort in Dorset, please let me know asap.

The target is an adapted bit of golf kit - a driving practice net. We'll be slinging selected round pebbles at it from and to several positions on the ramparts. You have to be prepared to follow the experiment procedure, for scientific reasons and because of commitments I've made about safety (it's a public access place) but that should be part of the interest.

So, please let me know soon. As I said before, if you need help with travel, let me know. (No, Mauro, not air fare from Italy.)

Pete

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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2878	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #97 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 10:46am I am up for it, 100% For your reference, these are slingstones that were recovered from the pit caches at Danebury. The size is three fingerwidths on the long axis. http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1253972930
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Masiakasaurus Slinging.org Moderator mah-SEE-a-kah-SOR-us Posts: 4923 Gender:	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #98 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 11:33am How about air fare from the US? Please?! (I'm only kind of joking.)
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Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts
Reply #99 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 11:49am

David,

That's great, thanks. Please pick any day in March except the 16th. Probably best by email.

The Danebury report says the stone (vs clay) shot were 29.5g-109.5g, average 77.99g, mode 69.5g. But other sites apper to have had different sizes. The Danebury ones in the Museum of the Iron Age are rougher than the ones in your picture, which I guess is not surprising.

I'm gathering stones for the experiment and have several different sizes, but 60g-80g seems most likely. The pic shows some in the 60g-69g range.

Pete

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Mauro Fiorentini Slinging.org Moderator Forge your future with the hammer of your mind! Posts: 3072 Gender:	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #100 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 12:09pm Quote from mile-end on Jan 15^th, 2013, 10:13am: (No, Mauro, not air fare from Italy.) Darn! I swear I'll begin looking for a cheap ticket! When are you going to do the experiment in March?? Have you choose a day already? It's always good to read you Greetings, Mauro.
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mile-end Tiro Student of the Iron Age Posts: 59 Gender:	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #101 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 12:54pm Mauro, Pick your day! I hope have up to eight slingers, but only one or two at a time, so I will do it any day in March that's convenient to the slinger. (Except 16th; I'm booked for a conference.) Pete
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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2878	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #102 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 1:04pm Not March 29-31, but the other weekends should be okay.
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slingbadger Interfector Viris Spurii Don't Badger a Badger Posts: 2573 Gender:	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #103 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 1:48pm Quote from David Morningstar on Jan 15^th, 2013, 10:46am: I am up for it, 100% For your reference, these are slingstones that were recovered from the pit caches at Danebury. The size is three fingerwidths on the long axis. http://slinging.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1253972930 Gee, those look a little familiar.
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David Morningstar Slinging.org Moderator Forum Moderator Slinging Rocks! Posts: 2878	Re: Sling Defence of Iron Age Hillforts Reply #104 - Jan 15^th, 2013, 3:56pm Good times... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW912BD9gZM
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