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Reply #105 - Jan 16th, 2013 at 1:14am
 
Why can cool stuff like this never happen in America?  Sad 
Make sure you guys take some good video and pics!
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Reply #106 - Jan 16th, 2013 at 8:37am
 
Keep an eye out for the NE sling meet this year.  Smiley

I'm not entirely sure of the details, but it'll be awesome.  Cool
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Reply #107 - Jan 16th, 2013 at 10:59am
 
I'll start a new thread for march - weekend definitely.
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Reply #108 - Jan 18th, 2013 at 12:57pm
 
Here's a Google Earth view. The Iron Age fort is the large, fairly rectangular set of ramparts on a contour close to the top of the flat hill. There's also a Roman fort, that you can see in the top left (north-west) corner of the IA one. The red line is the path from the car parking spot. The blue area is where the slinging will be.
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Reply #109 - Jan 18th, 2013 at 1:22pm
 
<Sigh> Someone please tell me how to get a photo to come out at a reasonable size here, so you don't have to scroll around it.
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Reply #110 - Jan 18th, 2013 at 1:59pm
 
Most image upload sites have an resizing option that you can use when you upload your picture.
For example, http://imageshack.us/ and http://tinypic.com/

You could also use paint to resize your photo before you post it here.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Resize-a-picture-using-Paint
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Reply #111 - Jan 19th, 2013 at 8:34am
 
Thanks for the advice. Here's my fifth attempt: at last, it worked! (Not sure why.) I was making the picture smaller (I thought) in Photoshop, but it appears I have to alter all three parameters to make it work.

Anyway, what it shows is the Hod Hill ramparts, very near where we'll be slinging. It's taken from the top of the outer rampart and the figure in red is on the inner rampart. It's a little steeper where we'll be.
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Reply #112 - Jan 19th, 2013 at 10:24am
 
Looks like a good site. I can just imagine the hail you would meet if you popped your head over that outer rampart   Shocked

Was there a palisade wall on the inner rampart with a 'firing step' on the inside? This could greatly steepen the angle of shot you could get and eliminate the defilade at the base of the outer rampart. Should we take a step-ladder and see if we can see and sling parallel to the outer slope of the outer rampart?

[EDIT] Actually, looking at it again I'm not sure you could get high enough without a seriously big wall. Something we should definitely look at is slinging at an angle across the ramparts. I would set my defense as being a bunch of spearmen where the attack is going to reach the wall and position slingers on either side of them shooting at the attackers flanks while they try to fend off the spears with their shields.
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Reply #113 - Jan 19th, 2013 at 11:04am
 
There was likely a parapet on the inner rampart; C_A and I have been considering whether we could simulate that (elsewhere). Don't forget, also, that the ramparts would have been a bit steeper and the ditch deeper. (On the earlier Iron Age forts, the ramparts were lower but often faced with wood and stone, i.e. effectively a wall.) I think, though, the parapet could be more for standing behind than on top of. Some reconstruction illustrations do show a pallisade with a "firing step" but I don't know what evidence they have for it.

When we went to Barbury Castle, C_A could stand behind (inside and lower than) the inner rampart and drop shots (tennis balls, I'm pleased to say) on me in the outer ditch, i.e. past two ramparts blocking his view of me.

Current plan for the measured part of it is to simulate a direct frontal assault, but that doesn't mean we can't experiment with variations.  The influence of and reasons for the specific shape of the rampart are, after all, the point of the investigatione. Half the time, also, we will be "attacking" - slinging from the outside at the target on the ramparts.
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Reply #114 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 1:52pm
 
We're about to start the experiment, BUT I STILL NEED ONE MORE VOLUNTEER! Surely there's one more slinger who can manage a day out in Dorset any day in the next few weeks! No? Oh well, back to the statistical drawing-board.

C_A and David will be leading the charge (defence, rather) on Friday and/or Saturday. The and/or is because we'll be dodging between showers, I think. I spent most of today weighing, sorting and painting sling stones. (The paint is because the National Trust requires me to find and remove them all. If I miss one, at least future archaeologists will know it's one of mine.)

I visited C_A for some trial runs last week. He only broke the target a bit . . . I've done some mending, but I'm not sure it will last the course. I also tweaked the procedures a bit and modified the Safety Plan also. I did a survey at Hod Hill (so there's now a profile, Mauro) and chose a slightly different line to sling along as a result.

So, after a year of planning and negotiating, I'm almost ready to go. Main issue is likely to be the weather - and that missing slinger!

Will let you know how we get on.

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Reply #115 - Mar 6th, 2013 at 3:59pm
 

I cant wait!  Grin

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Reply #116 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 2:17am
 
Pete if I could get there from Portland Oregon I would sling until my fingers bled, but unfortunately I was born on the wrong continent for this wonderful experiment Sad

For all you geographically lucky people, good luck and have fun! Pete put a lot of work into this and I bet it will be awesome!
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Reply #117 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 6:39am
 
We tried, there are slingers in the south of england - even one notable one in oxford who definitely has a car whistle who could have easily made the trip.

It's not like the threads have been hidden. Not sure what else we could have done, just have to face it - english slingers don't like getting involved.

Anyway I'm picking david up from the station at 9:37 and then setting out for the bottom of the country (ye gods). Which anyone who knows me will realise is bloody early for me to get anywhere.

Next job, fix the cigarette lighter socket in the car - the charger for my cell phone decided to fall to bits last week and I think there are still bits in there that need digging out.
Without the satnav plugged in tomorrow it'll be a very long journey (although davids phone probably has one as well.).

Pics and reports as and when we're back at computers.   

It'll be fun regardless of the weather Smiley
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Reply #118 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:01am
 
Costa has not payed me yet, I can't afford the trip  Sad
I wish you the best of fun, Mile I can't remember if you had found these pics I sent you of our hillforts useful...?
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Reply #119 - Mar 7th, 2013 at 7:47am
 
Will you guys be bringing a video camera? And slinging against the fort?
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